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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2005, 03:17:31 AM »
All i can say:


GREEKS RULE


im at 156BC now and have well over 4,000,000 denari.

hold the whole of greece, half of italy and all the lands to the east of greece down to jerusalem and damascus.

The key to money is the sea. control the sea and you're laughing.

only trouble with bribing folks is they usually become dishonest, and therefore unfit for governing cities.

fun to send them on suicide missions against their own country tho :)




as to the online tourney, count me IN!!!
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2005, 03:21:08 AM »
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Another way I found to get new generals, is to send a large army without commander (but at least one cavalry unit) & fight a lot of "small" armies with it, it will propose you (if you succeed) to turn one of your cavalry unit into a commander, this is great in the beginning!

Am playing my 3rd campaign (haven't finished the 2 before that...3rd one looks good, I own Italy, Greece, and all north western yurop), and am thinking into changing to VH/VH for the next one.

Biggest problem for me has been Egypt, they keep rebelling...grrr.

I got the game in Luxemburg, and the doc is in german (thank cod, not the game!). I have a couple of questions:

When I tell my units to charge, they don't always (read most of the time) charge that unit, but another unit nearby. Is this a bug, or is this a 'feature' ?

How do I get my units to face a certain direction without moving them?



often poor troops will not follow orders perfectly in the face of battle.

to turn your troops, or indeed a whole army at once, simply highlight them all and press , or . to rotate in formation.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2005, 04:40:20 AM »
Thanks Mechanic!

I have another trouble in my last campaign, I have a fleet with a star (I have no idea whatsoever how I got that), it's loaded mostly with triremes... and when I set it in a city to "retrain" (Some of them are damaged), it just stays in the "retrain" list without ever being repaired.

That city has the port facilities needed (Dockyard i think) and I do have enough cash... it just stays at 0% retraining completion.

I have played the romans so far only,  I find the spearmen to be too slow for my game style.

My tactic against the AI has been so far:

A line of Infantry: Hasati, or better (with spears set to "fire at will")
A line of bowbmen (3 squads)
A 2nd line of Infantry.
The general behind all of those.

And on the flanks 3 or 4 units of cavalry. Later on a mix between light & heavy cav.

It works well on open grounds, I still have trouble when attacking cities with stone walls... but nothing embarassing :)

Added: I found a use to those "special ops" roman units (those that can hide anywhere). When pursuing(sp?) That last enemy cavalry unit all around the city, my own cav was unable to reach them... they were obviously at the same speed... I had 3 squads of those spec-ops unit run to a street the enemy cav was running to... they ran straight into them. :D
« Last Edit: January 19, 2005, 04:43:20 AM by Saintaw »
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2005, 04:45:49 AM »
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Currently I have destroyed Macedonia, Spain, Gaul, Carthage, The Greek Cities and Pontus is a protectorate and Thrace is down to one town and REFUSES to surrender.


Having Protectorates is bugged right now and every protectorate you own soaks up around 20k each turn from your money.

And yeah GREEKS RULE! :D

BTW Saintaw i've got both the german and english version (which i play all the time) and R|TW has a pretty decent translation, in fact the Latin words seem a lot more convincing in german. (No Triari.. )
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2005, 05:03:27 AM »
im not sure about retraining the fleet, is your city under siege?

nothing retrains or builds when sieged.

you got the star because the place you built them in had a general commanding with some 'seamanship' quality or something i think.


yeah, my battle formation for any country is infantry line with archers behind, cavelry at sides.

although the greek horses suck big time so when greek i have additional infantry holding the flanks.

essentially i make an impenatrable box that holds my archers in saftey. not much in the way of AI can beat it except with serious numbers or very well trained troops.

for offensive, i LOVE the onagers. nothing like a few firery balls of death flying at the enemy to weaken their resolve :)


attacking stone walls:

get some onagers and destroy the gate house and any towers that may be a threat to your possition. next take some ladders round the side or back walls and get some missle troops up them.

once on the wall you can run right round the defences capturing all their towers. once youve done this you can hold the defences on the front wall at bay while you get your infantry up the ladders in saftey. should any enemy try to stop you....well you took their towers so they fire inwards apon them now :D

also your archers/spears can rain terror on them from any posstion you like with little to no chance of taking casualties themsleves.

i also would say VH/VH difficulty is the most rewarding after a few campaigns.

cant wait to play online, a real opponent would be awesome, and very difficult at first i imagine.
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2005, 05:13:19 AM »
Leitwolf, The game itself is in english, but the paper doc came in german for me. (thank cod...as my german is very limited)

Mechanic: The town the fleet is supposed to be repairing at is my capital city, it's not under seige, and there are still open spots  free in the "units" section. Must be a bug... rats, that fleet has a pretty good experience & weapons :(

PS: I've used onagers very little, as they are *slooooowwww* to move about on the map... I will try what you said above this evening for a try :)

Can't wait to be tomorrow... new system is finaly shipped, I should finaly be able to play this (and other stuff) with something other than low low low details :)
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2005, 05:55:43 AM »
The game has big flaws if you ask me. The bribing whole armies or faction members thing is practically cheating - it did happen in atiquity but was expensive. It's nearly always cheaper to bribe fellow Roman armies than raise them yourself.

The battles move much too quickly even using the 4.1 RTRealism mod. Apparently this has been changed in 5.0.

Naval combat is a joke. Naval movement is a bit poor too. Why should it take a couple of years to get from Northern Italy to Africa?

Overall it is a great game, but let down in a few key areas.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2005, 06:52:32 AM »
My favorite is when a country comes up to me with a diplomat and says:


We will give you a ceasefire, if you give us 33k denari.


I reach over to the nearest city and bash it into the ground.


The next diplomat says:

We will give you a ceasefire and 20k.

That's more like it!  :aok
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2005, 09:50:32 AM »
On my third campaign after getting screwed by the other nations. In my second campaign I played as the Seleucids and was able to eliminate all the nations east of the Black Sea, as well as Egypt and had the Scythians as a Protectorate buffer zone in the north and forced them to give me military access.

As for bribing the other leaders....its the only way to go and I typically go for the ones with large armies. Its a little costly but you can end up with some studs in areas that you need. However I have never been able to bribe either a faction leader or the faction heir.

In the current campaign I am the Scipii and have control of all of Greece except for the one city directly across from Italy which is Brutii. Macedonia is gone and Carthage is now only in one area of Spain. I am also propping up the Spanish in order to create a war that will start between them and Numidia and SPQR and then we will see who is the best. Also I can't get a guy on the Senate council and the population loves me!

Once they ask for my leaders blood ITS  GOING TO BE TOTAL WAR!
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2005, 12:24:27 PM »
That game looks very interesting. Unfortunately, my 'puter isn't near powerful 'nuf to handle it. Guess it's time to upgrade.:D

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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2005, 12:30:33 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2005, 12:41:59 PM »
Saint, not being able to retrain those ships is a bug, it has happened to me.

Try this, merge a couple of the damaged units and then try retraining the rest. Sometimes you have to merge them all and then build a few new units.

Didnt know proctectorates soaked up my cash.....gonna have to go bust some more heads in Pontis now.  :D
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2005, 02:47:48 PM »
I won short campaigns with all three Roman factions, then won a long campaign with the red dudes (Brutii?). I am now winning a short one with the Greeks since it was recommended in this thread. The Greeks are some rich SOBs! I was pulling down $13,000 PER TURN there for a bit, really had a hard time spending it all...LOL.

I own all of Sicily as well as the Peleponesse and part of Asia minor, the other guys I am sharing Asia Minor with are allies so it is time to turn my attention to Italy I figure.

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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2005, 03:34:24 PM »
Try the total realism mode - prepare to get whipped....

http://www.rometotalrealism.com/

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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2005, 05:21:54 PM »
RTR is great - haven't tried v5.0 though.
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