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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2005, 05:14:26 PM »
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But at those ranges with those guns, whether you hit or not is a flip of a coin.  Most often landing on a miss.

Soon, someone will get lucky with a 2800 yard shot.



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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2005, 05:31:58 PM »
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But Carlos Hathcock shot that with an M2 machine gun.  Not a sniper rifle.



But at those ranges with those guns, whether you hit or not is a flip of a coin.  Most often landing on a miss.

Soon, someone will get lucky with a 2800 yard shot.


Thought the record was for longest shot by a sniper, not longest shot with a dedicated sniper rifle

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2005, 06:20:37 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2005, 06:25:37 PM »
Well, I'm just giving more credit to Carlos.


He had the M2 tightened up with a 20x scope.  The M2 fires at such a slow rate that you can easily squeeze off a single round.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2005, 06:54:11 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2005, 07:11:21 PM »
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The M2 fires at such a slow rate that you can easily squeeze off a single round.


Alternatively, you could select it via the..the...the...twisty thingie in the back under the butterfly trigger and over the buffer housing that holds the bolt release thingie down. I'm drawing a blank and can't for the life of me remember what the nomenclature of that thingie is right now.  :p

Anyway, there is a single-shot mode (not to be confused with semi-auto) available on most M2 guns provided they have the proper parts on the backplate assembly.

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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2005, 12:23:36 AM »
No one else noticed that the Marines' name was Herbie Hancock? :lol

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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2005, 12:44:32 AM »
Well I am not sure its the longest "kill".

A 10 years ago, while shooting from the hip during excercise and target shooting. one shoot of the FN MAG went up in the air over the bullet cover. 4 km away (4000 meters) a car comes driving in about 70 km/h. The car has the side window open about 3 inches.
AS the Bullet now nearly reached its d-max it would never even been able to pass thru the glas.
The bullet hits the softpart of the drivers head and kills him amidiatly. Luck or Bad Luck?

Shooting someone above 2000 yard are just pure fluke, sorry

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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2005, 01:07:05 AM »
No, it's not pure luck.

Most awesome sniper rifles have a MOA of .1-.2 .  This means that at 100 yards, you can draw a circle with .25 diameter and all the bullets would land within this circle (assuming they are small enough to fit in).

However, it also means that at 200 yards, that circle gets big enough to fit all the bullets in .4 diameter circle.  At 500 yards, this gets to be 1 inch diameter circle.  

Now this is a perfect gun with perfect ammo.  It doesn't exist in the real world without plopping down thousands of dollars.

.25 MOA is very good to obtain in the real world.  So that means at 2800 yards, the Bullet would land within a 700 inch circle.  Now, this might seem easy itself, it is not.  You have to worry about windage, heat differences and all this stuff.  If you can hit this 700 inch circle at 2800 yards, you are really really good.

However, hitting a 24 inch wide person at that distance is all luck.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2005, 02:09:13 AM »
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No, it's not pure luck.

Most awesome sniper rifles have a MOA of .1-.2 .  This means that at 100 yards, you can draw a circle with .25 diameter and all the bullets would land within this circle (assuming they are small enough to fit in).

However, it also means that at 200 yards, that circle gets big enough to fit all the bullets in .4 diameter circle.  At 500 yards, this gets to be 1 inch diameter circle.  

Now this is a perfect gun with perfect ammo.  It doesn't exist in the real world without plopping down thousands of dollars.

.25 MOA is very good to obtain in the real world.  So that means at 2800 yards, the Bullet would land within a 700 inch circle.  Now, this might seem easy itself, it is not.  You have to worry about windage, heat differences and all this stuff.  If you can hit this 700 inch circle at 2800 yards, you are really really good.

However, hitting a 24 inch wide person at that distance is all luck.


Something is wrong with your math. I believe the formula for calculation MOA is 1.047 inches per 100 yrds 1.047 x 28 = 29.316 inches

Read up on Hathcock and you will see he was not some luck sniper. He was possibly the best there ever was. Everything I have seen also say his kill was confirmed at 2500 yrds.

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2005, 06:40:53 AM »
I think I remenber reading Tim McVeigh scored at about 1000yards in the 1st Iraq war.

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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2005, 08:20:01 AM »
BTW, this thread, though I didnt specify it in the header, was "longest confirmed kill in Iraq".  

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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2005, 08:39:51 AM »
Yeah, thought I screwed something up in those numbers.  700 seemed way off.
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