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Offline majic

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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2005, 05:59:10 PM »
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Funny that I didn't meet anyone opposing abortion there during my recent visit. Where are they all at?


Where did you visit?

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2005, 05:59:47 PM »
i was being a wisenhiemer.
this thread is doomed.
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2005, 06:02:09 PM »
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There is nothing wrong with judicial activism, especially at the Supreme Court level.  It is a very important part of the checks and balance system.

ack-ack


Good...we'll put conservatives on the court and legislate. I'll keep the fact that you think it's a good thing in mind.

especially if the democrats in the Future ever win both houses of Congress and the Presidency...we'll simply challenge all legislation  at the Supreme Court level and declare it Unconstitutional.
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2005, 06:03:49 PM »
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Please tell me you're not American.  Please.


No there are nine on the court...five for a majority decision.

Sorry tarmac I grabbed the wrong Quote.
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2005, 07:04:55 PM »
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Good...we'll put conservatives on the court and legislate. I'll keep the fact that you think it's a good thing in mind.

especially if the democrats in the Future ever win both houses of Congress and the Presidency...we'll simply challenge all legislation  at the Supreme Court level and declare it Unconstitutional.



So all judges in Supreme court of USA are actully apointed because of their political views?

(just s curious question from an, in this matter, not so well informed swede, no bashing, promise)

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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2005, 07:24:18 PM »
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So all judges in Supreme court of USA are actully apointed because of their political views?

(just s curious question from an, in this matter, not so well informed swede, no bashing, promise)


More or less that is correct. While the final power is in the hands of the people (Constitutional ammendments) the Justices are nominated by the president and approved by a Senate vote. However the Supreme Court has been used in modern times as an arm of a political party. Roosevelt wanted to increase the court by four extra Justices so he could pack it with people sympathetic to his views ( He lost that one). More recently there seems to be a litmus test. The Democrats will block any nomination if any Justice is deemed to be "pro-life". Bork was an example. He wasn't actually pro life as much as he was pro Constitution. In other words he felt the Supreme Court was to follow the dictates of the Constitution as it was intended and not legislate from the bench. This is unacceptable to the liberal wing of the Democratic party. Unable to win elections they need to use the Courts to legislate there agenda over the people. This is one of the main reasons for the vitrolic hatred that you see for George Bush. He will nominate two or three Justices in his second term. Four more senate seats will give the Republicans a fillabuster proof Senate. Then you would see panic by the left
wing.

A fillabuster is when a Senator takes the floor of the Senate and speaks until the time limit for a vote has expired. In other words it blocks a vote from being taken by the full senate. The Democrats have been using this to block GB nominees to all Courts.
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2005, 07:50:56 PM »
No, the supreme court is only supposed to rule on whether or not items are uncostitutional.

But they go out of there way to say things that are constitutional.  That's called legislating.
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2005, 07:58:22 PM »
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Of course he's going to support them.  He needs the goose stepping Christian right for support.


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An example of the vitrolic hatred I mentioned earlier...notice the word Goose stepping to denote Nazis...actually goose stepping Nazis means we lost the election.

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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2005, 08:44:41 AM »
mora... you came here and asked people how they felt about abortion?    They all said that it was a great thing and that it should be done at every chance?

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2005, 09:33:58 AM »
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
There is nothing wrong with judicial activism, especially at the Supreme Court level.  It is a very important part of the checks and balance system.

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Judicial activism is not Constitutional.....remember the will of the people part?

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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2005, 09:34:56 AM »
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Of course he's going to support them.  He needs the goose stepping Christian right for support.


ack-ack


Ahhh.....the truth rears it's ugly head