Author Topic: Make Iran Make the 1st Move (Read 4501 times)

Raider179 · « **Reply #210 on:** February 05, 2005, 10:36:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Rasker
Isn't there a mentally impaired 19 year old female named Leila under sentence of death by stoning for prostitution? The original date for execution has passed but I haven't heard anything about commutation or pardon. More details are available at activistchat.com.

Yeah the one that was forced into it by her mother.

http://www.mukto-mona.com/new_site/mukto-mona/human_rights/stoning_to_death_iran.htm

Wonderful people

Raider179 · « **Reply #211 on:** February 05, 2005, 10:46:17 AM »

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Originally posted by lada
yeah .. typical american, he read 3 www and he know everything.

From the link regarding execution, you could note, that even local people protested. True is that in most sutch cases family doesnt back their children. The one who were "vicim" of the crime of somebody else in iran have some sort of power regarding his punishment.
And its quite common that

For example. One of my friend (a girl from Yazd) were harashed on the street by some boy. In 2 days police bring 3 guys, she identify one of them. Then they simply ask hew, how should they punish him.

He went to the jail for several days, as she suggested.

Thanks for link, but i suggest you to visit iran. May be you will be surprised, that Iranian jews doesn agree with israeli politics or iranian muslim do not consider their liders to be a muslims.

every event like execution w/o clear reason or proving guilty is another knife to the back of guardian council.

But you are probably to cool to check hows reality works.

Since 10 years ago prostitution were subject of dead penality, today prostitution in Tehran is just subject of little fine.

One thing is what happen there
second thing is whats public opinion
third thing is, where does iranian want to go.

i guess you have no clie about No.2&3

But fell free to judge and if you will have balls to go to Iran, let me, i will join you.

1) I am far from a typical american. You have no clue on that subject so speaking on it pointless.

2)prostition is not just a fine. see the link on murdering the retarded girl for prostitution even though her mother forced her into it at a young age.

3) if they tried to execute someone in America for prostitution, adultery, or just being un-islamic(which would never happen because we are not idiots) you can be assured I wouldnt be the only one raising hell about it. I will protect anyones right to believe and do what they want as long as it doesnt interfere with someone elses same rights.

4)I have something bigger than balls bro its called a brain and my brain says it would be a one way trip to iran. The more I read about that country though the more I am favor of some of our friends in the big black planes with big shiny bombs paying you guys a little visit.

5)thats the great thing about america I can judge anything I want to and not worry about getting buried up to my neck and stoned to death for it.

6) of course their are some good people there. Not saying that at all. But you got some damn rotten apples over there and they are spoiling it for the rest of you. So you want to blame someone for the way I see your country blame your countrymen first.

Boroda · « **Reply #212 on:** February 05, 2005, 10:50:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
Wonderful people

In Russia the marriage age is 18. In Ukraine it's 17. In Central Asian republics like Uzbekistan it's 15 or 16.

Let's bomb Uzbekistan!

You need to define your tolerance limits.

Raider179 · « **Reply #213 on:** February 05, 2005, 10:52:47 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
In Russia the marriage age is 18. In Ukraine it's 17. In Central Asian republics like Uzbekistan it's 15 or 16.

Let's bomb Uzbekistan!

You need to define your tolerance limits.

and in arkansas its 14 or 16.. Did you read the article? Its about a mentally retarded woman being executed for prostitution not about how old she is to be married.

Boroda · « **Reply #214 on:** February 05, 2005, 10:56:02 AM »

My remark was about cultural diversity that Americans are so proud about.

For me - live broadcast of McWeigh's (spelling?) execution for the families of Oklahoma Bombing victims is as barbaric as your article.

Boroda · « **Reply #215 on:** February 05, 2005, 10:58:14 AM »

JFYI, if you read Charles Dickens, you should know that in XIX century in UK stealing more then 20 shillings was punished by death. Just came into my mind.

lada · « **Reply #216 on:** February 05, 2005, 11:15:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Raider179

2)prostition is not just a fine. see the link on murdering the retarded girl for prostitution even though her mother forced her into it at a young age.

fine .. it were in the meaning like "pay fine for prostitution", its quite common

Yeeep sutch things could never happen in US, there is no slavery and never ever in man kind history US women force her child to be a prostitude.

However if you realy belive that trip to iran could be one way trip, then you must have some special sort of information.

I would love to see some sources of your fear, coz you can meet a lot of foreigners in Iran.. .from Germany, France, New Zeland, UK, Swiss, Australian, and so on... but so far i saw the only 1 american in Tehran and 1 Emreekan in Turkey.

It seems that all people around the world just getting wrong informations and fact, that non of them has been split into 5 pieces in iran is probably incredible luck. Yeah... your informations are most correct .. the one way trip

Raider179 · « **Reply #217 on:** February 05, 2005, 11:17:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
JFYI, if you read Charles Dickens, you should know that in XIX century in UK stealing more then 20 shillings was punished by death. Just came into my mind.

lol thats 200 years ago...try to stay at least in the same century

as for mcviegh he killed 168 people including babies. For me, they coulda strapped him to the top of the space shuttle for all I care about his rights.

Raider179 · « **Reply #218 on:** February 05, 2005, 11:20:44 AM »

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Originally posted by lada
fine .. it were in the meaning like "pay fine for prostitution", its quite common

Yeeep sutch things could never happen in US, there is no slavery and never ever in man kind history US women force her child to be a prostitude.

However if you realy belive that trip to iran could be one way trip, then you must have some special sort of information.

I would love to see some sources of your fear, coz you can meet a lot of foreigners in Iran.. .from Germany, France, New Zeland, UK, Swiss, Australian, and so on... but so far i saw the only 1 american in Tehran and 1 Emreekan in Turkey.

It seems that all people around the world just getting wrong informations and fact, that non of them has been split into 5 pieces in iran is probably incredible luck. Yeah... your informations are most correct .. the one way trip

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_920.html

Boroda · « **Reply #219 on:** February 05, 2005, 11:53:10 AM »

Lada, can you read Cyrillic? I mean - like I can read Czech to some extent, I understand about 70%, but for you reading Russian there's a problem with different alphabet...

You say things that contradict Western stereotypes about Iran. Here's a link about DPRK: http://www.enlight.ru/camera/dprk/index.html

Author said that he expected to see "underfed dirty peasants" there. I think that his pictures are worth 1000 words. It's an eye-opening experience.

lada · « **Reply #220 on:** February 05, 2005, 12:06:46 PM »

http://www.theculturedtraveler.com/Archives/JUL2002/Iran.htm
http://www.iranian.com/Sep95/American_Iran.html
http://www.farhorizon.com/middle_east/iran-empire-of-ever-lasting-fires.htm

well i dont think, that you have problems between your ears.... i would guess your problem is between your legs

lada · « **Reply #221 on:** February 05, 2005, 12:08:04 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Lada, can you read Cyrillic? I mean - like I can read Czech to some extent, I understand about 70%, but for you reading Russian there's a problem with different alphabet...

You say things that contradict Western stereotypes about Iran. Here's a link about DPRK: http://www.enlight.ru/camera/dprk/index.html

Author said that he expected to see "underfed dirty peasants" there. I think that his pictures are worth 1000 words. It's an eye-opening experience.

hey thats NK

thanks but i cant read ciliric ( i can read something like 30%

i could post my own pictures if people are interesting in it.

Boroda · « **Reply #222 on:** February 05, 2005, 12:16:25 PM »

That's North Korea, indeed

Please, post your pictures, they will be appreciated!

If you understand 30% of Russian text - WTG!

Did you see the pictures there? Contradicts with propaganda stereotypes, doesn't it?

lada · « **Reply #223 on:** February 05, 2005, 12:18:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
That's North Korea, indeed

Please, post your pictures, they will be appreciated!

If you understand 30% of Russian text - WTG!

Did you see the pictures there? Contradicts with propaganda stereotypes, doesn't it?

yeeep .. i will prepare them and post them during next week in o`club

Raider179 · « **Reply #224 on:** February 05, 2005, 03:05:34 PM »

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Originally posted by lada
http://www.theculturedtraveler.com/Archives/JUL2002/Iran.htm
http://www.iranian.com/Sep95/American_Iran.html
http://www.farhorizon.com/middle_east/iran-empire-of-ever-lasting-fires.htm

well i dont think, that you have problems between your ears.... i would guess your problem is between your legs

1) 4 years old pre-9/11 letter
2)10 years old
3) a friggin travel agency

Give me a break.All you got is to question my manhood. Like I said the more I read the more in favor I am of bombing them/you back to the stone age. (not the people, the government, the mullahs, whomever supports the crap I posted earlier, looks like that includes you. Care to give your nationaliry, race? I guess HRW is full of it too, I couldnt even go through a miniscule amount of what they have on your friendly iran.