Author Topic: AR234 formations (Read 433 times)

Mugzeee · « **on:** January 18, 2005, 04:46:53 PM »

Have tried everything i can possibly think of to take off with a formatuion of AR234's. It is impossible for me to do it. The drones just sit on the runway till they explode. They do move a little. But very very slowly.
No this isnt a new bug. But its begging the question. Is it going to be fixed in the next patch? ty

Dux · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2005, 03:00:22 PM »

I have no problems at all taking off, but once in the air, I find that the bombsite points straight ahead at the horizon (yes, after calibrating) and when landing unscathed, the drones refuse to land, even after several attempts to regroup with them.

Nice waste of 120 perks.

Mugzeee · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2005, 12:20:24 AM »

Dux...I found that the sight points forward if i havent yet toggled the bombs up after using the RTO's/
BTW...please tell me how you are taking off? Auto take off? or?
Thanks.

Schutt · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2005, 04:22:25 AM »

Just a few days ago i shot down 2 arados (1 drone 1 main) just after takeoff, so some people manage to take off.

Mugzeee · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2005, 10:16:36 AM »

Cool...hope they read this post and lend some takeoff tips. I never had a problem in AH1 taking off in any bomber type formation. AH2 however is different all together. The B24's are tough at best with a FULL load out. The Ar234's....Forget it. I can take off in a formation no matter what i try. Please give some tips if you have any.
regards.

Dux · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2005, 10:28:39 PM »

Sure thing... in fact it works well for all heavy bombers. But never use auto-takeoff.

First, when you spawn on the runway, take the elevator trim out of "full up" mode and center it. When it's full up, it actually seems to create a lot of drag, making you accelerate slower.

Second, start engines at fully low throttle until they're at idle. Then, stand on the brakes as your engines spool up to full... it's no use rolling at only partial power.

Third, let your speed get up to at least 100 kts before lighting up the RATO. Also remember, lift creates drag, so don't create lift/drag until you're up to takeoff speed.

Fourth, use all the runway you can. Pull up gently when you run out of runway, and get your gear up ASAP. In fact, do everything gently when it comes to flying bombers.

Works for me every time... I hope it helps.

Warning: unless you can get your drones to land, you will lose MANY perks... even if you have no damage.

ps. thanks for the bombsite tip, Mugzee!

Schutt · « **Reply #6 on:** January 25, 2005, 02:56:59 AM »

With the B24 i noted that when you push the nose a bit down till take off speed it accelerates better, i think on all nose wheel bombers if you keep the nose on the ground they accelerate better.

Dux... you use no flaps with arado takoff?

I usually kick 1 or 2 notches of flaps just before takeoff on heavys...when applied before the acceleration is worse.

ci8ao schutt

Dux · « **Reply #7 on:** January 25, 2005, 03:33:16 PM »

I have not needed flaps yet, Schutt... but you'd be right about applying them at the last second; acceleration is better.

One other thing I forgot to mention... I never bother taking more than 75% fuel (and I always seem to have plenty left over) but these tips should work as well with 100%.

Mugzeee · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2005, 04:44:13 PM »

Thanks for the tips guys....i will try them next time on.
And 10/4 on the Landing thing

Hopefully HTC will modify the "Auto Takeoff " for various bombers and planes so that the newbies can trust auto takeoff.

Flayed1 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2005, 12:17:13 AM »

I think the auto take off is messed up for bombers but I never use it so I don't have alot of problems.
I havent flown any 234's l8ly but the few times I have there have been no problems.
As far as the 24's and 17's go I use no flaps full power and all the runway I can get keeping the nose down then lift gently.
This seems to work well with the 24's but you may have to slow down a bit for 17 drones after lift off, they are always sluggish and be carefull on turns in 17's they will lag behind more than any other bomber in the game.

Hope this helps.

Black Sheep · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2005, 12:42:46 AM »

Flaps have caused me to lose my drones in all heavies including ar234s. Therefore I do not use them. There is enough runway to get them up 99% of the time. You'll just have to take less fuel/use rato's and keep the nose down for max acceleration. Don't use Auto Takeoff