Woes with car dealership.. suggestions?

[OIO]

well jony, if i sign a paper agreeing to purchase a product and pay an upfront cost and they sign it agreeing to deliver said product at stipulated price, its a done deal no matter how many ways I can look at it.

[Rolex]

They offered you your deposit back, so I would say take it - a deal is a deal but it isn't that big of a big deal. You spent $500 worth of time thinking, obsessing and posting about it.

[JB88]

rage!

rage against the monkey!

[VWE]

No its not a done deal, they haven't done anything wrong legally. Ethically... that's another story and you can try your local Fox news station. Does the paperwork your holding have a vehicle VIN# on it? If not you put a deposit down to hold a place in line for something coming down the pipe, they offered to give you your deposit back and at this point its probably your best bet. If a local news station doesn't want to run with your story, legally there's no point in pursuing it.

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by VWE
I've been selling cars for a dealership for 2 years, there's no more lying cheating scum working here than any other job I've ever had.  6 weeks huh? Nice effort...

Yea, I didn't have what it took to lie to people, mislead them and basically rip them off.  The “service” that car salesmen offer, isn’t.  Basically you do everything you can to give them near nothing for their trade in and trick them into paying too much for their new one.  Tack on extras and surprises whenever you can.  The worse a deal you give the customer translates into more money for the salesman.  Spend a couple of hours misleading someone, fill out some paperwork, and make $500 off of them; and the store makes a lot more.  Great formula for service!  Dishonesty is a trademark of all successful car salesmen (commissioned ones).  After customers left, it wasn’t uncommon to hear salesmen make insulting comments about people who earned an honest wage.  Management would lie to the salesmen; no one trusted anyone.  

I left disgusted and ashamed that I ever had anything to do with the business.    

Sorry if you’re taking this personally, but that’s how I feel about commissioned car salesmen and car dealers.

eskimo

[mora]

Originally posted by VWE
I've been selling cars for a dealership for 2 years, there's no more lying cheating scum working here than any other job I've ever had.  6 weeks huh? Nice effort...

Exactly. People just expect the moon from the sky because they  buy cars they can't really afford to.

[rpm]

I'm willing to bet that a contract written by the car dealer only favors the car dealer. As someone said earlier, if they are treating you this way now, what do you expect after you take delivery? I'd expect they will give you the runaround on every bit of warranty work, and I'd expect quite a bit of warranty work on a hybrid until they get all the kinks out of them.

Oh yeah, buy a Ford.

[WMLute]

Originally posted by eskimo2
Yea, I didn't have what it took to lie to people, mislead them and basically rip them off.  The “service” that car salesmen offer, isn’t.  Basically you do everything you can to give them near nothing for their trade in and trick them into paying too much for their new one.  Tack on extras and surprises whenever you can.  The worse a deal you give the customer translates into more money for the salesman.  Spend a couple of hours misleading someone, fill out some paperwork, and make $500 off of them; and the store makes a lot more.  Great formula for service!  Dishonesty is a trademark of all successful car salesmen (commissioned ones).  After customers left, it wasn’t uncommon to hear salesmen make insulting comments about people who earned an honest wage.  Management would lie to the salesmen; no one trusted anyone.  

I left disgusted and ashamed that I ever had anything to do with the business.    

Sorry if you’re taking this personally, but that’s how I feel about commissioned car salesmen and car dealers.

eskimo

You don't have to lie, or cheat to be a car salesman.  I did it for 6yrs, and can count the people I "screwed" over on one hand, and I had done well over a thousand car deals. The car biz. is like any other.  If you have to "lie" or "cheat" to do a deal, then you are a piss poor salesman.  Doesn't have to be done that way.

Sales is sales.  That Pharm. Rep. who "sells" a drug to a doc that they make for 25 cents and retail to the consumer for 50.00 is no diff.  

Heck, you wanna talk crooks?  Look into the funeral industry.  THEM guys are crooks.

Back on topic.  I might have misunderstood, but I was under the impression that you signed a contract for an '04, and they are not avail, but an '05 is at a higher price.  Seems to me like you have no deal.  Nothing you can do.  Contract is null/void in my opinion.  IF the dealership HAD an '04 and refused to give it to you at the agreed price, THEN you could take legal action.  Unfort. that is not the case, and you are indeed wasting your time.

[lasersailor184]

Ok, here's what you do when someone tries to screw you out of money.  A few people I've known have done it.

Buy a 1911 .45 pistol.  Walk right in on the office of the **** that did this to you.  Hold the muzzle an inch to the right of his left ear and fire a round off before he can say anything.

Say, "I'm tired of getting ****ed.  You will now give me everything that we had previously agreed upon, nothing more nothing less.  If you call the cops telling them that I did this, I'll post bail and come back and kill you.  It'll be worth life in prison to watch as this .45 goes through your ****ing skull..."


So far, I've heard about it working twice.  The two contractors got exactly what they signed for in the contract.

[rpm]

Was the contract 8-10 for aggrivated assault with a deadly weapon?

[OIO]

"I might have misunderstood, but I was under the impression that you signed a contract for an '04, and they are not avail, but an '05 is at a higher price. Seems to me like you have no deal. Nothing you can do. Contract is null/void in my opinion."

The order was placed in april '04 with the understanding the delivery would be 4 months max.

I was told i could not cancel my order because id forfeit my deposit.

So its legal to hold my money 'hostage' for almost a year?

this is like bait and switch imo.

[TweetyBird]

>>Buy a 1911 .45 pistol. Walk right in on the office of the **** that did this to you. Hold the muzzle an inch to the right of his left ear and fire a round off before he can say anything.

<<

Ckint Eastwood syndrome?

Take your money and do business elsewhere. Thats about as close as you can get to winning in real life.

[lasersailor184]

You'd be surprised how big of ******* most people are.  I bet you could walk all over the guy after you do this.

[WMLute]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
You'd be surprised how big of ******* most people are.  I bet you could walk all over the guy after you do this.

Dunno what other states are like, but in the one I sold cars, we had conceal / carry laws.  I would say at least 1/4 of the salesman had guns in their briefcases (if not more).  Pulling out a gun and firing it in a car dealership here is similar to commiting suicide.

LOL once, this guy who's sold cars for 30yrs got sick of listening to two salesman bicker over a car deal (they had already gone out back twice to fight, and were STILL aruging) so he got out his .22 cal pistol from his briefcase, chased 'em both around a couple cars on the showroom floor, and ended up shooting one in the tush as he ran out the doors trying to escape.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by TweetyBird


Take your money and do business elsewhere. Thats about as close as you can get to winning in real life.

Yes, ditch the Prius statement car and save yorself thousands of dollars by taking your money to a Honda dealership and getting a Civic sedan.