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Offline Golfer

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« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2005, 12:46:14 PM »
I hate to tell ya, but you have yet disprove anything.

So far, you talk amongst yourselves to hear your own voices and make declarations, but I haven't seen one bit of evidence that debunks any claim.  If you are all so adamant that Straiga is not kosher, then...who is he?  What does he do?  I'll be having a face to face with him barely two days from now.  It won't be too difficult to say whether or not he is truthful after that.

In the meantime, don't pat yourselves on the back just yet.  Don't get too high in the saddle.  And by all means don't try to go directly to him to sort things out.  God forbid you take things up with someone personally and privately rather than expect them to come to you!

If you're going to be so willing to say "guilty" I'd like to see some of YOUR evidence.  Let's use the law as an outline.  Lets say he doesn't have to prove he's innocent.  You have to prove him guilty.  Give it your best shot.  I'd be surprised if you even have the name right.  In some of the emails, Bodhi has been demanding me to give a name beause it will resolve the issue quicker and would save him from using other resources.  I'd go as far to say as you don't have one.  A simple online white pages search will verify his phone number.  It's correct.  It's time for everyone here to put up or shut up.  We know who Voss is and what he's done.  So far, the most annoying thing to me is nothing but speculation is coming from the peanut gallery.

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« Reply #76 on: February 18, 2005, 01:04:37 PM »
No one has to prove anything Golfer, this is not a court of law ... more like jungle law. However if Straiga wants to gain back his credibility and (rather limited) respect on this BBS then he'd better show some form of proof for his claims.

He doesn't have to, but then again we don't have to believe him either, nor you for that matter.
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« Reply #77 on: February 18, 2005, 01:06:15 PM »
Golfer,

You're right. It IS time to put up or shut up. So far straiga has yet to "put up" and back his claims. So far all he has done is the "shut up" part.  

FWIW, the last time I was in Vegas there was plenty of ways to get to the internet.

Your spirited defense is admirable, if you are a friend. A friend would not allow his friend to dig himself into a hole like this then extend the hole further by the defense.
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« Reply #78 on: February 18, 2005, 01:06:38 PM »
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Let's use the law as an outline.  


In the Law, when someone testifies as an expert, they are generally asked to provide credentials for the record. As has been mentioned ad nauseum in these threads Nobody would give two ****s about his 500 hours in a P-51 (or any of the other claims he's made) had he not been using those as the basis for his observations.

Anyhow, I suppose I should finally put my cards on the Table. I have 502 hours in P-51s and I think he's full of ****. You learn it all in those last 2 hours. :p

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« Reply #79 on: February 18, 2005, 01:06:52 PM »
Sorry Golfer as far as I am concerned he has posted since being called out and has had ample time to reply and has not done so.

His silence says it all.  He had no problem when posting his supposed accolades, but when asked to back then up he has all of a sudden gone silent.


As for you attacking the rest of us because we would like the truth...

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In the meantime, don't pat yourselves on the back just yet. Don't get too high in the saddle. And by all means don't try to go directly to him to sort things out. God forbid you take things up with someone personally and privately rather than expect them to come to you!
That is such BS Golfer.  Why should anyone go to him privately for things he posted publicly in this community.  I didn't make the statements I don't have to defend anything.  It is your client that needs to make good on his mouth not us.  I don't know what your vested interest is in this but your buddy is getting you quite dirty as well.

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If you're going to be so willing to say "guilty" I'd like to see some of YOUR evidence. Let's use the law as an outline. Lets say he doesn't have to prove he's innocent. You have to prove him guilty. Give it your best shot. I'd be surprised if you even have the name right. In some of the emails, Bodhi has been demanding me to give a name beause it will resolve the issue quicker and would save him from using other resources. I'd go as far to say as you don't have one. A simple online white pages search will verify his phone number. It's correct. It's time for everyone here to put up or shut up. We know who Voss is and what he's done. So far, the most annoying thing to me is nothing but speculation is coming from the peanut gallery.
I like the USMC so I will refrain from saying what I am thinking about you and your attack on the rest of us.  

This is not a court of law.  This is a community based on truth and respect.  As for Straiga, he has made statements, seemingly as a means to garner respect and has yet to back them up.  

Just the fact that he can't even tell us the N number is absurd.  If someone flies a plane for 20 hours they are going to remember the N number just from pure use.  Then add to the fact that it is something as rare as a P51 and its 500 hours, something is very fishy.

Maybe you like having BS blown up your arse, but not me.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2005, 01:21:39 PM by mars01 »

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« Reply #80 on: February 18, 2005, 01:23:40 PM »
It's up to the one making the claim to prove those claims, not the other way around. Those folks who challenge his claims don't have to prove anything.

That's the structure of a good argument.

People aren't jumping to a quick 'guilty' conclusion. Straiga has been making outrageous claims since he started posting regularly. You can verify this by searching and reading his past posts.

What folks are doing is challenging him to support his claims, after all he made them. He brought all these issues up himself. No one came out of the blue and demanded Straiga prove he had P-51 time. Straiga used his claim of '500 hours in a P-51' as a qualifier to some of his points.

He did the same with his claim of 'B-17 stick time' and the same with his claim to have an 'Engineering Degree'. It's only natural that folks ask that Straiga back up what he says, after all he is using those claims to support his argument. He made them a point of contention, not any one else.

A lot these replies are just bait to goat Straiga into replying but there is some 'truth' to the fact that Straiga is in hiding. He was all to willing to throw out his qualifications and the second some one calls BS he runs away. Don't try to sell us on this 'he's to good to be bothered to prove himself to some BBS tards'. Look at the petty subjects of his complaints. Talk about stupid issues, look at the petty insults and tones of his replies. A brief examination of his posting history just shows how 'petty' he really is.

Don't forget folks already caught him in one lie. First his father was a 'retired General', then a 'Colonel'. That lie was from his own hand.

It's more likely then not that he is lying about the rest of his claims as well. However, it's still up to him to provide proof if he expects to be taken seriously.  As it stands right now he is a joke just like those fibers who came before him.

Go search the old Voss threads, Voss had his own 'Golfers' but it was a waste of effort, just like your defense of Straiga now. Why are you wasting your time and taking the heat? Some friend you have there, all this would be over if he just butched up and either took his medicine or offered some proof. He can do that privately through Toad or Bodhi if he really fears stalkers and identity thieves.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2005, 01:25:59 PM by Wotan »

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« Reply #81 on: February 18, 2005, 01:54:15 PM »
Well, either Straiga just had a freak yachting accident, ....
or he's been busted.
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« Reply #82 on: February 18, 2005, 02:11:16 PM »
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I hate to tell ya, but you have yet disprove anything.


Are you blind?  How can straiga's father be a retired USAF colonel then be a retired USAF general?  He made those statements.  That is a lie.  A person can not be two ranks when they retire from the USAF.  Search his father's last name at this link, see what you pull up.  http://www.af.mil/bios/

So there is one lie.


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So far, you talk amongst yourselves to hear your own voices and make declarations, but I haven't seen one bit of evidence that debunks any claim.  
 

Look above.  Go to this site http://registry.faa.gov/amquery.asp and input his info there, and see if an LOA in the P-51 comes up.  Better yet, see if a Type rating comes up for the B-17.... it's over 12500lbs and there fore requires it.


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If you are all so adamant that Straiga is not kosher, then...who is he?  What does he do?  I'll be having a face to face with him barely two days from now.  It won't be too difficult to say whether or not he is truthful after that.


My personal opinion on straiga is that he is some sort of pilot who gets his jollies from making up BS claims to bolster his ego.

As for you being able to tell the truth by meeting someone????  Ask the fewq who met Paul Hinds and how convincing a liar he was.  There are many psychophants out there, and the ones who usually go to these depths are usually very convincing it person.

I will offer one other wonderous way to solve this.  Have straiga email me directly @ nawcdgreenREMOVE@yahoo.com (remove the REMOVE from the addy before sending.  When he does, we can settle this out of the public eye, and I can come back and tell every one yeah or nay on the statements.  The other alternative is that this is going to continue without let up until he puts up.

One last bit of advice, have you ever heard that he who sleeps with dogs gets fleas????  Keep that in mind Golfer, you seem like a nice person, albeit a bit naive and too trusting.  If this guy is really not who he says he is, why would he lie, and what kind of person might you being getting involved with....
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« Reply #83 on: February 18, 2005, 06:32:23 PM »
Let's get a grip on things here. Golfer has done nothin but point out the fact that evryone's innocent till proven guilty. That's a fact that is slowly being diminished , not only in public arenas,(i.e. media accusations), but in legal circles as well, (i.e. Patriot Act Articles) and something everyone should be very mindfull of.  

Golfer is in a better position to solve this, ( for those that it means so much to), than anybody posting so far, Straiga aside. Attacking Golfer for not going along with the herd, just before he's to actually to meet the man, is an action better fitted to early Salem, then a BBS board in the year 2005.

Asking someone who has consistently boasted claims to show some proof, is one thing. Attacking anyone who even holds a firm NEUTRAL position, that may not be one's own, is an unacceptable course of action taken in an attempt for justification before justice.

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« Reply #84 on: February 18, 2005, 07:06:36 PM »
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Let's get a grip on things here. Golfer has done nothin but point out the fact that evryone's innocent till proven guilty. That's a fact that is slowly being diminished , not only in public arenas,(i.e. media accusations), but in legal circles as well, (i.e. Patriot Act Articles) and something everyone should be very mindfull of.  

Golfer is in a better position to solve this, ( for those that it means so much to), than anybody posting so far, Straiga aside. Attacking Golfer for not going along with the herd, just before he's to actually to meet the man, is an action better fitted to early Salem, then a BBS board in the year 2005.

Asking someone who has consistently boasted claims to show some proof, is one thing. Attacking anyone who even holds a firm NEUTRAL position, that may not be one's own, is an unacceptable course of action taken in an attempt for justification before justice.

My 2 cents.


Golfer is not neutral.  straiga has been caught in one lie already.  He (Golfer) has never acknowledged that.

Still waiting straiga
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« Reply #85 on: February 19, 2005, 01:26:50 AM »
Why don't ya'll start a new thread on Autopilots vs torque rotation in multi-engine aircraft? That will pull him back, maybe under a new shade name!

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« Reply #86 on: February 19, 2005, 03:50:11 AM »
For all who wanted to know the N number of the Mustang Straiga flew.....



















NCC-1701, D model I think.













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« Reply #87 on: February 19, 2005, 01:00:03 PM »
hehe, Zor.

Ya know what I likeabout Star Trek, is the way the ships bank when they turn in space, lol.
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« Reply #88 on: February 19, 2005, 01:40:28 PM »
I am starting to thing Golfer is Straiga. I mean I read though the Auto pilot thread, and his stuff about torque on the wing or whatever stuff, and it seems to me that when ever Straiga started to catch flak, Golfer picked right up where he left off. Look at his thread about the torque on takeoff with the B24, read all of his posts, watch where he leaves off and golfer comes in, then when straiga comes back golfers is nowhere to be seen. Look at the dates and times of both of there posts. You will see what I am talking about.


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« Reply #89 on: February 19, 2005, 05:56:06 PM »
Golfer is not Straiga.

No one is going to win anything in this affair. Everyone will most likely lose, and particularly Golfer, who is just an enthusiastic young man with an overabundance of faith in people.

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