god save the queen?

[Maverick]

Yawn, who cares.

[Siaf__csf]

Beauty is only skin deep but ugly goes ALL THE WAY TO THE BONE!

I dropped.

[SOB]

Heh, a poll from my local paper...

[Otto]

I really don't care, one way or the other, what that totally Dysfunctional family does now, or in the future.

[JB88]

interesting responses fellows.

thanks!

[Curval]

Swoop old pal...beg to differ.

Charles marrying Camila is a signal that he is going to be skipped over.  Lizzie may have blessed the marriage but in the back of her mind she has said "that's IT for you mate".

Just my $0.02

Personally I think Charles is "into" Camila because she is a kinky old hag.  I mean he even wrote that he wanted to be reincarnated as a pair of her panties.  She likes it hard, dirty and EVEYWHERE.

lol

[storch]

Originally posted by Swoop
Ok, who's this 'they' you're talking about?


See, there's this thing called birthright which under ancient British law means that the monarch's eldest child is 1st in line to the throne when the current monarch either dies or abdicates.  Now some people seem to think that the Queen should have abdicated and handed the throne over to Charles years ago but I disagree.  Being the head of state in this country is a job for life and always has been, why should the Queen give it up before her time?  Heck if I was King I'd wanna try to beat Queen Victoria's record of longest reigning monarch as well.

As for skipping Charlie, why should he not get his birthright?  Makes a mockery of the whole thing.  And besides, I, me, your very own Swoopster, am currently 2365th in line for the throne of this country.  Apparently.  So I was told once.  So if the law gets screwed around with then my claim to the throne in the event of a major disaster which wipes out the 2364 people in front of me would be looked on in a bad light.

 King Swoop the first.  Got a nice ring to it don't cha think?


Ok back to the point.  See, you've gotta understand that Charlie never wanted to marry Dianna.  It was all arranged and prebooked and sorted out by Mum long before the event.  Now sure, ok, Dianna kinda got the thin end of the wedge but she didnt deal with it very well.  There's an awful lot that went on that was never made public and probably never will be, but let me tell you Dianna wasn't quite as nice as people seem to think.

But whatever Dianne pulled Charlie never answered back, did anyone notice that?  Personally I admire the guys class and think why the hell shouldnt he be allowed to marry whoever he wants to and still keep his birthright?

That sounds about right.  The guy is a gentleman through and through.  Very well said swoop.

[J_A_B]

Charles is likely to be skipped mostly because his mother will likely out-live him.

J_A_B

[Zulu7]

"The Facist Regime"



Goodnight

[storch]

I really mean it man

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by beet1e

The nearest American equivalent is English Muffin - something I'd never heard of before I went to America.

Dang Beet, here ya go, An English muffin.
You had really never heard of one before and didn`t know what they are  for?
I know I`m gonna pay a visit to your country now.
I knew you were behind the times, but this is ridiculous. I understand why it`s such a prob to keep up on other things now.

[genozaur]

Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Or Harry, then we would have cool tabloids with kings and swastikas.

In defence of Prince Harry I should clarify that he was wearing the arm-band with bogus swastika.
The Nazist swastika on the Nazist (and Nazi Germany's) flag has to be tilted at 45 degrees, and have its four "hands" of equal length with the length of four ends of the central cross. So, Adolf Hitler's design canon was violated in this particular case.  

[Swoop]

Originally posted by Curval
Charles marrying Camila is a signal that he is going to be skipped over.  Lizzie may have blessed the marriage but in the back of her mind she has said "that's IT for you mate".

How so?


See.....it ain't up to her.  It's up to Charles, if he decides he doesn't want it he can pass it on to William but why should he?  

Although.....up until the last few years he's always done exactly what Mummy told him to.  If she 'told' him he'd probably obey.  But again, Mummy may have realised that all the crap she put him through with Dianna needs making up for.


Now, just as an exercise here......imagine you held a position on the board of an important organisation and when you retired / died it was due to be passed on to your eldest child (er, Trew is it?)........and years ago you'd ordered Trew to marry a trophy wife but that didnt work out and now he's marrying the woman he wanted to in the first place.

Can you think of any reason whatsoever that you would be thinking "That's IT for you mate"?


They're still people even though the blood may be blue.


And while I do think that Queen Liz the 2nd has done nuthin useful in her entire reign I also think Charlie is a stand up fella.  OK, he can be a bit of a numpty at times but the man has class.  William could be going the same way, we'll see.  Harry......is a complete numb nuts and frankly I don't think Charles is his father.

The very fact that Charles has waited for such a long time and agonised over the decision of Camilla's titles with a view to her being accepted by the British public shows exactly how he views his position.  Not as an all powerful ruler but as a true King.

If it was me I'd have married her years ago and stuck up a two fingered salute to anyone who had any criticisms whatsoever (er, well not her cos she's not my type but you get the idea).  

[Curval]

Swoop,

Thing is...I'd NEVER insist that Trew marry a trophy wife, or any wife he did not love and respect.  Doing so is just simply beyond any bounds of reason or fairness.

The Queen, as you rightly pointed out, does/did not adhere to such morality.  She told Charles he was marrying Diana and that was that.

People think Maggie Thatcher was a tough chick.  She doesn't hold a candle to QE2.  Iron fist?  Try titanium fist.

I don't think Charles is a bad guy, but I've never been able to see him as King.

William is gonna be wearing that crown, not his old man, and marrying Camila is just the excuse the Queen needs to justify the "passover" within the family.

Charles was a naughty boy.  He did not do as mummy told him and he is going to "pay" for it.  I think he knew this in any case and decided to simply not fight it anymore.  He may as well marry and be happy with the woman he loves (for whatever that reason may be).

I tend to agree with your assessment of Harry.  That act of absolute stupidity wearing that nazi uniform to the Halloween party was unforgivable.  The thing that worries me about it was that William helped him pick out the costume and attended the party with him.  He should have cuffed Harry across the head at the mere suggestion of such an outfit.  But, he's stilll young.  QE2 will be around long enough to ensure he has a few more years to realise what is smart and what is stupid.

[Swoop]

Originally posted by Curval
William is gonna be wearing that crown, not his old man, and marrying Camila is just the excuse the Queen needs to justify the "passover" within the family.

Care to place a small wager?



Cos I can't see why the Queen would be pissed off with Charles.  He did what he was told and she turned out to be a right wench who was way more trouble than she was worth.  And he put up with it.

And now, years after her death, he wants to remarry.  Why would the Queen be annoyed with this decision?

And again, I'm going to bring you back to my other point:  It still isn't up to her.



P.S.  As for Harry, it's not just the Nazi thing.  He's a complete idiot.  Did you see his reaction when he left school?  Just cos the camera's were there if you ask me.  I rate Harry's intellect lower than George Bush's and that's saying something.