Author Topic: Vid Card Upgrade Question (Read 1193 times)

AmRaaM · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2005, 07:50:54 PM »

best thing to do is not spend any more money and just tweak that 9600 up to 9800 speed. I did it to my old comp and worked great. got the firmware and knowski from tweak.com or someplace,

38ruk · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2005, 09:11:13 PM »

ive had both a 9600 pro and a 9800 pro, there isnt any way to clock a 9600 pro to 9800 speeds , they are two different animals, the 9600 only has a 128 bit memory bus VS the 9800's 256 bit. if i remember right the 9600 has a higher clock speed, on the core ,than the 9800 right out of the box. My 9600 clocked like a banshee able to get 570 on the core and 350 on the memory from stock 400/300, 9800 pro speed are 380/340. Now compare the rendering pipes the 9600 pro has only 4 pipes VS the 9800pro's 8pipes....huge difference. It would have to be one hell of a tweak to get a 9600 to 9800 speeds . fwiw

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EDIT maybe you were thinking 9500 to 9700?? that was possible with some of the 9500's but ati learned their lesson after that ..........

humble · « **Reply #17 on:** February 18, 2005, 11:16:24 AM »

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Originally posted by buzkill
a friend of mine has close to your setup (well,cpu anyway) on a dfi lanparty mobo....his x800 pro pulls avg. of 120fps all the time in AHII.1600x1200 res. high detail i'd go with that

Hmmm.....

I'm running a X800pro with a athlon 64 3200+ on a lanparty board. It'll cap at 75 (monitor limit) but will dip well below that under load. No way a X800 will pull 100+ frame rates with detail settings maxed out.....

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #18 on:** February 18, 2005, 02:10:27 PM »

Humble he really might be pulling those numbers if he has his antivirus disabled, a low cpu firewall and a low cpu soundcard.

It's amazing how much resources sound takes for example.

38ruk · « **Reply #19 on:** February 18, 2005, 02:29:23 PM »

well 1600X1200 @ 120 fps is hard to believe with vsync on , he may get it with vsync off at altittude when it doesnt have to render much action. As skuzzy has said before there isnt anything out the that can run AH2 at max settings and have a very high frame rate 38

humble · « **Reply #20 on:** February 18, 2005, 06:35:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Humble he really might be pulling those numbers if he has his antivirus disabled, a low cpu firewall and a low cpu soundcard.

It's amazing how much resources sound takes for example.

Possibly up high and alone....but not in a furball or down on the deck.

buzkill · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2005, 08:46:46 AM »

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Originally posted by humble
Hmmm.....

I'm running a X800pro with a athlon 64 3200+ on a lanparty board. It'll cap at 75 (monitor limit) but will dip well below that under load. No way a X800 will pull 100+ frame rates with detail settings maxed out.....

he's running a 3400+......twice the cache of yours or mine...with detail high not maxed..vertical sync off to see what it'll do

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 19, 2005, 01:27:57 PM »

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Originally posted by buzkill
he's running a 3400+......twice the cache of yours or mine...with detail high not maxed..vertical sync off to see what it'll do

Why bother? Theres no benefit to gain from disabling vsync. All it will gain is occasional stutters.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #23 on:** February 19, 2005, 01:51:17 PM »

The benefit is that the user can see how much overhead he has over the vsync. There wouldn't be any point to benchmark anything if apps would just regularly cap on the refresh.

38ruk · « **Reply #24 on:** February 19, 2005, 04:19:43 PM »

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he's running a 3400+......twice the cache of yours or mine...with detail high not max

well im running a 3400+ @2.8 ghz, up from 2.4 ghz , with a x800 pro clocked from 475/445 to 540/525 , fresh install of XP with 11 proccess (BareBones ) with CL2 ram , I avg nowhere near 120 @1600X1200, if im at alt without anything to render thats a different story , but not average.

well i tested further..... ndiles OFFLINE A1 p 51 on NE runway
512 textures, vsync off all AH settings maxed

60fps on runway through rollout
137fps at auto climb by the time i hit the water
54fps @5k flyover at A1
FWIW 38

Soda · « **Reply #25 on:** February 19, 2005, 07:20:01 PM »

I have a 3500+ with an X850XT and I only get a bit more than you 38ruk. My monitor refresh is capping me at 85 most of the time but I get down into the 40's at points when in serious action near the ground. Something over 100 is likely when it's quiet or up high but I can't really tell.

I should really try and overclock this rig a bit to see what it can pull off.... could up the CPU and GPU.

-Soda

38ruk · « **Reply #26 on:** February 19, 2005, 09:18:14 PM »

Hey soda nice rig sir ! Wish i had an X850 8( my monitor is always capped at 75hrz , i see some image tearing with vsync off , so i always have it on . It would be nice to see how that rig clocks, bet itsa beast as it is thou <~~> 38~~

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2005, 03:35:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
The benefit is that the user can see how much overhead he has over the vsync.

Good enough reason, didnt think of that. I certainly wouldnt want to leave it like that for regular play though.

buzkill · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2005, 08:35:00 AM »

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Originally posted by 38ruk
well im running a 3400+ @2.8 ghz, up from 2.4 ghz , with a x800 pro clocked from 475/445 to 540/525 , fresh install of XP with 11 proccess (BareBones ) with CL2 ram , I avg nowhere near 120 @1600X1200, if im at alt without anything to render thats a different story , but not average.

well i tested further..... ndiles OFFLINE A1 p 51 on NE runway
512 textures, vsync off all AH settings maxed

60fps on runway through rollout
137fps at auto climb by the time i hit the water
54fps @5k flyover at A1
FWIW 38

sounds about right....he doesn't o.c. it but thats pretty close to same

jtdragon · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2005, 06:00:15 PM »

I've had a XFX 6600 GT for a month now and for the $ its the best for AH FS of 35 to 50 in GV and 70"s in the air
cost around $200