my point being that you are not picking typical liberal groups to prove your point. Soldiers are pretty much the same everywhere. Strikeing minors are not usually concerned with socialist theory so much as they are self interest. Their ethics and lifestyle would probly put them into the conservative camp save for the aformentioned self interest.
In fairness... A lot of the conservative values I embrace are self interest motivated. I will vote for satan himself if he leaves me alone.
lazs