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Offline SELECTOR

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« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2005, 05:52:41 PM »
i pesonaly would like to see icons reduced to red dot and only show type at 1000 yrds..more realistic to get confirmation at lesser distances.. also reduce icon range from 6 to 3 k...this is getting so arcadish... next we will be having life bars on enemies..

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« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2005, 05:52:52 PM »
The icon thing is fine. If you are in a lesser model version of an aircraft and are relying on basically a "bluff" to survive and get kills  chances are you gonna die anyway.

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« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2005, 07:30:05 PM »
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The icon thing is fine. If you are in a lesser model version of an aircraft and are relying on basically a "bluff" to survive and get kills  chances are you gonna die anyway.


Raider - not true at all... A FW190A8 now is a fat slow target.. without the corrections in the FM and its damage model set in such a way that almost every first ping kills engine oil it's now useless except in suicide vulching missions.

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« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2005, 07:47:21 PM »
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yay!

PILOT CAN SHOOT!! W00T!


this should be interesting. Cant wait to see how many pilot wounds are caused by bailed players and the whines sure to follow LMAO

Dont care one way or the other. but it should be interesting
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« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2005, 07:48:24 PM »
As for the icons.
fly what you want. I'll stay in my FW A-5 A8 or 109 F4 without the disguises and kill you anyway:D
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« Reply #50 on: February 18, 2005, 08:48:56 PM »
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AI JUNMPED outTA my aeroplne!! piolet go BANGF BNAG!! PIOW POEWIWW!!! it wsa teh funnay!!!111!!1 I R L33T!!212123111 I R CowntaSTreik H4XXOR!


holy crap! :rofl

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« Reply #51 on: February 18, 2005, 09:25:18 PM »
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Raider - not true at all... A FW190A8 now is a fat slow target.. without the corrections in the FM and its damage model set in such a way that almost every first ping kills engine oil it's now useless except in suicide vulching missions.


man i've played IL-2FB and 190s are more stable there...

190s here should be fixed like ASAP!

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« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2005, 09:28:57 PM »
Does this mean you can spawn camp with a .45?
Do you only get 1 clip?
Can you get resupplied?
If you and the emeny bail out can you shoot it out on the ground?
Can you bail out at the map room and shoot incoming troops?

I think I've exhausted the ridiculous questions. Did I miss any?

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« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2005, 09:39:04 PM »
tikky ever consider that their 190's shoudl be fixed? lol

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« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2005, 10:52:38 PM »
Can I use 47th Sentai Skin in the Ki-84 fianlly?

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« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2005, 12:12:56 AM »
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Can I use 47th Sentai Skin in the Ki-84 fianlly?


Skins are fixed thankfully!

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« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2005, 12:59:54 AM »
Yucca ofcourse not since it's an Allied conspiracy.  We also know that the last WWII sim we played was correct with it's modeling and this new sim we are playing isn't.

As some have said if you worried about hidding behind a plane type because it didn't give the enemy all the details, then just stop flying.  Every plane is a threat regardless of what variant it is.  If you choose to engage or disengage purely on what type of plane it is then as I stated above stop flying.  The only thing that should make you choose to engage or disengage is your ammo, fuel state and the horde.  

People are gonna fight the same as they did before.  If they want to chase you down they are gonna try until it proves futile.  If they wanna turn fight they are gonna turn fight.  If they wanna bnz they are gonna bnz.  They'd figure it out one way or the other if it is prudent to use a tactic against a particular airframe.  If they fly intelligently they'd test the waters before just jumping into a fight in the first place.

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« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2005, 03:58:36 AM »
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[B... A FW190A8 now is a fat slow target.. without the corrections in the FM and its damage model set in such a way that almost every first ping kills engine oil it's now useless except in suicide vulching missions. [/B]


6Gun :)

The A8 is only a fat slow target if flown that way.  It is fast, just not in a long drawn-out run with the LA7's hunting you down.

Keep her high, and keep her fast, swoop down, attack and get back on perch, that is the 190's key.  She's no furballer, she's an assassin’s weapon.  

Basically you really never want to get a bogey on you six, control your engagements. But bogeys do get on your six eventually. The 190A8 is a very maneuverable plane, that doesn’t mean she turns well (she turns very poorly), but maneuverability is more than turn rate.  Use your roll rate to change your lift vector and your direction quickly.  Stay off of the rudders and   the elevator; they are both notorious bleeders of energy. No plane in the arena can follow your roll, they will be using elevator, and hopefully rudder to try and follow you.  

If the bogey has to much e on you, wait until he just breaks 600 yards, then chop throttle, kick full rudder, aileron roll, drop your speed, make a couple of rolls to throw off his aim.  He will hit 200 yards a lot quicker than he expected, and then he will realize that you are trying to force an overshoot. But now is the tough part, you have to watch your six more than your front as you are in this full rudder state.  See what he is doing, roll to keep him from getting a good guns solution. If he breaks off to get alt, you should be behind him and should get a shot into him at under D300. Hopefully you have friendlies who will now take him out or force him to disengage.  This works especially well with LA7s as they don't slow down very well.  But it works on Spits and NIKIs also.  Sometimes you do your best and get shot down anyway. Try to figure out how he got on your six, and don't do whatever you did again :)

Don’t get down on the deck with a 190 unless your speed is above 450 mph, then grab alt after the pass, remember that a low A8 is a dead A8.

The A8 is a diver, if it is a 109 on your six do some rolls and try to get pointed straight down. Full WEP until you reach about 450 mph, then chop throttle, the 109's compress at about 480 mph, once you are 480 and he is closing, gently pull up, the 109 can’t follow. Now get up some alt on him, and dive down as he pulls out of compression, or break off if it is a G10, he’ll just outrun you.  This works for other planes, but you have to get more speed before they compress, once you hit 550 mph chop throttle , kick rudder to bleed speed or you will compress.  He should be target fixated and compress in just about anything, gently pull out as he roars by you.  You will probably just have to disengage and hit for your lines until you get alt back.

Keep your egress route well planned, your egress is more important as your ingress.  As people now know you are a A8 and not a Dora, you will get more people pursuing you than before.  Keep it faster and higher than you did before.

The A8 has some other tricks that I will keep to myself. ;)

She is really a much better plane than people think. :aok
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« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2005, 07:35:53 AM »
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for once i kinda agree with the naysayers.. i enjoyed outfitting my F4 with skins that looked closer to G10 and vice versa, hoping to catch spit pilots off guard...

kinda curious as to the reasoning behind changing what i thought was a decent system to begin with? i didnt see many people calling for that feature?


I'm with Moose..Leave it as it is for friendlies though.
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« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2005, 08:47:19 AM »
I am with Cobra on this one.

If its RED and it wants to dance ... then we're gonna dance no matter what the plane or variant ... doesn't make a watermelon bit of difference to me.

All those who are trying to over-engineer the distances at when and what you see ... please.

I don't know about you, but when I am all tangled up with someone that is D400 or less ... I am not trying to figure out what variant of the plane is. I am trying to figure out how to get my nose into a guns solution. Things happen too fast to be worried about what exactly I am fighting.

Gotta love the resurgence of the LW conspricy ... always good for a laugh.
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