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Offline ~Pyroman~

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Need Help with Joystick
« on: May 22, 2001, 02:27:00 PM »
Ok I have a MS Sidewinder Precision Pro (the original not 2).  Anyway, I'm having a hell of a time tweaking it.  Does anyone have the same joystick or know where I can put my setting so I don't have the jumping when I fire.  Also I was told that if you have it tweaked right you won't have blackouts as often.  

PLEASE!!!  Help me out I would greatly appreciate it.  I'm tired of messing it up and making it worse all the darn time.

Thanks!  (I have a feeling I'll be getting a post from Leph now.....I hope)

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2001, 06:55:00 PM »
Hehehe.  You guessed right. <G>

Actually, I'm going to copy what a squad mate wrote in another forum here recently.  I don't think he'll mind:

 
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To properly tweak your joystick controls, you gotta do something like this:
1) Calibrate the stick, throttle, and rudders in windows control panel.

2) Enter AH setup, and calibrate the controls. Make sure you APPLY the new calibration.

3) Go to the stick adjustment setup in AH, and look at the little box. Wiggle the stick and rudders around and notice what happens to the little cross and lines in the little box window.

4) Adjust the sliders, deadband, and dampening until the little stick and rudder symbols move SMOOTHLY as you move the stick. The deadband should be as small as possible while preventing an position jiggling when you center the controls. Start out with the dampening set to zero, and adjust that LATER based on if you get excessive nose bounce or find yourself rocking the plane back and forth in roll while lining up for shots.

Some people have to adjust the stick scaling to all 100, some use a linear adjustment (10,20,30,40,50...), some use a convex curved adjustment (10,12,15,20,30,50...), some use a concave curve (10,30,45,55,60...), but I had to continually tweak my scaling in a non-linear fashion to make it so the little stick position cross moved smoothly and predictably when I moved the joystick. These settings will be different for each person.

Apply the changes after each scaling slider change. I also recommend starting out with the roll damper set to zero and all roll scaling set to 100.

After you get things set up, fly some offline. Try to line up shots on the drones. If you find yourself overshooting your roll angle, try adjusting the roll dampener. If you find you have pitch nose bounce and are shoving the stick fwd and back to try to line up your shots, adjust the pitch dampener then try again.

If you find that you only have pitch bounce when the stick is near center, adjust the first few scaling sliders down a bit. If you only have bounce near half-stick, adjust the middle sliders a bit. If you are near full aft or fwd stick and have nose bounce, you are not trimming enough

Hope this helps. I spend about 2 hours at the last con adjusting my stick settings before the dueling tournament, and I found that my gunnery improved dramatically after I spent the time making adjustments. When I got home with the sticks I won at the tourny (hehe sorry LLB) I again spent some time adjusting the settings. It's time well spent and your flying and gunnery will definately improve if your stick is set up the way YOU like it.


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Although this won't decrease the G level at which you hit blackout, it will certainly let you be a bit smoother on the stick and ride the edge of blackout a lot closer.  Spend some time offline tweaking your stick settings, and shoot some drones when you think you have it right.  Don't be afraid to mess with things, you can always put them back.  Find the settings that work for you.

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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2001, 05:30:00 AM »
Lephturn, do you use trim?; and if so, how have you got mapped to your PPro?

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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2001, 08:23:00 AM »
Good question.  

I use combat trim most of the time.

I have a shift-button setup using the P Pro 2 and the 4 base buttons for manual trim of the rudder and ails, and my button 3/4 shifted for vator trim if I need it.  This isn't mapped in AH, I've setup a Sidewinder profile that maps the shift+button presses to the keyboard keys that AH uses for trim.  Most times I just use the keyboard for manual trim to be honest.  The type of flying I do doesn't require manual trim 95% of the time.


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