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Offline KBall

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« on: February 21, 2005, 01:32:33 PM »
"The Second Amendment secures a right of individuals generally, not a right of States or a right restricted to persons serving in militias."

http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm#2c

This is a very informative article. I would recommend everyone to read it.

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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2005, 05:06:03 PM »
Indeed, a good read.  Anyone who takes the “collective” view of the Second Amendment is not taking an honest look at what had just taken place in “the Colonies,” and it’s likely effect on the thinking of the framers of the Constitution.  The new nation had just won a war for independence against an oppressive regime, a war that would have ended before it began but for the fact that most able-bodied men in the colonies had been allowed to “keep and bear arms.”  What was in the Founding Fathers’ minds at that moment in history?  Were they so sure this new “experiment” known as democracy would succeed, and that there would never again be a need for the average citizen to take up arms against the government?  Or is it all the more likely that they realized that their fledgling nation’s government could, like so many others, undergo a metamorphosis into yet another in an endless succession of tyrannies?  Which way would they hedge their bets, to eliminate the threat of revolt by stripping the means of resistance from the people, or to guarantee the peoples ability to defend themselves against repression?

When I took the oath of office upon my commissioning, I swore to uphold the Constitution, and defend it from “all enemies, foreign and domestic.”[b/]  Who’s to say that domestic enemy couldn’t someday turn out to be “the Government”?  I pray it never does, but as long as humans remain “human” that possibility, however remote, exists.  I believe the framers of the Constitution believed it as well.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2005, 05:07:42 PM »
Informative read.  I'll keep that one bookmarked.  Thanks!

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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2005, 05:10:29 PM »
Everyone runs to the constitution the moment someone says something about Guns, yet they don't even bother looking at the declaration which clearly says what guns are for.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2005, 05:28:32 PM »
Do the research!
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2005, 07:47:17 PM »
Never knew this (from the link)
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The right to arms that colonial Americans inherited from England had been set out first in the English Declaration of Rights of 1689...
No wonder we lost.

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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2005, 08:17:46 PM »
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Never knew this (from the link) No wonder we lost.


well the bright red coats in the clear new england air probably had a little to do with it as well.  :D
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2005, 08:28:20 PM »
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well the bright red coats in the clear new england air probably had a little to do with it as well.  :D


this board never ceases to make me laugh
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2005, 08:29:52 PM »
Was camoflage considered immoral or something? :)
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Offline lasersailor184

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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2005, 08:33:34 PM »
No, but not seeing your buddies bleed was considered a morale boost.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2005, 08:34:27 PM »
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No, but not seeing your buddies bleed was considered a morale boost.


LOL :aok
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2005, 08:44:35 PM »
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Was camoflage considered immoral or something? :)


Ungentlemanly probably:aok