So much for your hunt ban, Mr Blair

[Eagler]

found it hilarious to see these richer than sin stuffy brits actually crying on the tele about this ban on their silly "traditional" "Sport"

Foxes 1, Stuffy brit snob 0

LOL

[lasersailor184]

Dredi, I actually do agree with you.


There's no sport with sitting with a high power rifle with a 10x scope in a tree stand being able to knock the fly out of it's wings at 300 yards...

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Get a girdle beet1e.

:)

Originally posted by Stringer
Except it's hunters that contribute much more than most any other group when it comes to taking care of the natural habitat in which they hunt.

And you don't know very much about your average hunter.  Rednecks is definately NOT the term to describe your average hunter, especially when you consider the amount of money that goes into the gun, the equipment, the vehicle and into the dogs.  I'm referring to upland game hunters as that's the most hunting that I do.  It is not an inexpensive past-time.  But it is one that I'm passing onto my boys as my father did with me.

The Countryside Alliance here often points  to the positive impact that hunting has on the economy. Jobs are created managing the stables and managing the hounds, and there are jobs created in the business of supplying horse bridles and other riding gear.

As for the actions of the hunters ridding our countryside of the blight caused by foxes, I think that's largely BS: Foxes are bred in captivity to be released into the wild to be hunted.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Elfie
No.....that would be suicide imo

Naaaa The Indians used ta sometimes do it that way didnt they.

Hey then at least the animals would have a "sporting" chance.

Just remember. you dont "play dead" for black/brown bears.
they will eat you anyway LOL

[Toad]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Dredi, I actually do agree with you.


There's no sport with sitting with a high power rifle with a 10x scope in a tree stand being able to knock the fly out of it's wings at 300 yards...

Come with me to the Colorado mountains sometime and hunt elk. Spend a week climbing and feezing from before sunup until after dark and then tell me how easy it all is.

[lazs2]

fat slobs... I am 55.... 6'1" and 190 lbs.  And... I am irresistable to women and certain types of men (not just brits).  

lazs

[lazs2]

oh... and the .50 caliber ban has to do with the fact that the round will penetrate the armor on bulletproof limo's

I don't have any friends that drive around in bulletproof limo's but the people who made the law do.  

I don't fear the people having .50's but the government does.

lazs

[beet1e]

Originally posted by lazs2
fat slobs... I am 55.... 6'1" and 190 lbs.  And... I am irresistable to women and certain types of men (not just brits).

190lbs., but didn't you cheat earlier in life? I was ectomorphic until the family genes kicked in, about 30 years ago.

If lasersailor can't make it, I should go with toad to hunt elk. The location and the mountain climbing sound idyllic. And, believe it or not, I have shot and killed with a gun before. Got a hell of a bollocking for it though.

[straffo]

I expect a rush of red dressed brit with horses in France ...

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Toad
Come with me to the Colorado mountains sometime and hunt elk. Spend a week climbing and feezing from before sunup until after dark and then tell me how easy it all is.

and tell me how that translates into a sport. Or in being sporting.

Hell I've done that hiking. Though not in Colorado.
Dont view hiking as a sport though either.

I support hunting and hunters.
but its not a sport. Its an activity.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by lazs2
oh... and the .50 caliber ban has to do with the fact that the round will penetrate the armor on bulletproof limo's

I don't have any friends that drive around in bulletproof limo's but the people who made the law do.  

I don't fear the people having .50's but the government does.

lazs

Funny thing is the only people who might shoot at those cars with 50 Cal are the ones that dont care if there is a law or not and probably work for people who could and would easily obtain it elsewhere.
So for them the law is irrelevent

[Toad]

All in how you define "sport" I guess.

If you're looking for something with referees and rules, big crowds and player jerseys.... hunting isn't it.

I find it quite "sporting". But then I think the definition of "sport hunting" and "sport fishing" make sense when viewed against "subsistence hunting" and "subsistence fishing".

Does that help?

No?

Perhaps this then:

A sport consists of a normal physical activity or skill carried out under a publicly agreed set of rules, and with a recreational purpose: for competition, for self-enjoyment, to attain excellence, for the development of skill, or some combination of these.

Hunting is definitely a physical activity and requires varying amounts of skill, depending on how you pursue the activity. I suggest to you that taking a Rocky Mountain elk in his native habitat requires some skill as evidenced by the pretty standard success rate of less than 20%.

There are "publicly agreed rules"; generally, these are found in the game laws.

It's certainly recreational and leads to much self-enjoyment.


Sure fits the definition of a sport.

[OneWordAnswer]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
..but its not a sport. Its an activity.

confused

[rshubert]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
and tell me how that translates into a sport. Or in being sporting.

Hell I've done that hiking. Though not in Colorado.
Dont view hiking as a sport though either.

I support hunting and hunters.
but its not a sport. Its an activity.

From the Mirriam-Webster Dictionary:

Main Entry: sport
Function: noun
1 a : a source of diversion : RECREATION b : sexual play c (1) : physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2) : a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in
2 a : PLEASANTRY, JEST b : often mean-spirited jesting : MOCKERY, DERISION
3 a : something tossed or driven about in or as if in play b : LAUGHINGSTOCK
4 a : SPORTSMAN b : a person considered with respect to living up to the ideals of sportsmanship c : a companionable person
5 : an individual exhibiting a sudden deviation from type beyond the normal limits of individual variation usually as a result of mutation especially of somatic tissue
synonym see FUN

In terms of (1) above, hunting very definitely IS a sport.

Thank you.

[Shuckins]

I'm 5'9" and 185 pounds...huff puff...

Punching those keys was exhausting...I gotta rest now.




Bye the way...unless you're a vegetarian, shut the ell up about hunting.  If you eat meat bought at a market you're killing by proxy, which is no different, except it makes you feel "better" about yourself.

Besides, I defy you to prove that hunting is in any way "unnatural."  Please don't trot out that tired old argument that it is "cruel."   All of nature is cruel, and will continue to be so until time itself ends.  That is the way it has to be.  

Grafting human "morality" onto an indifferent, amoral system is naive and silly.  Humans and their ancestors have been a part of that system for millions of years.  We are instinctively tied to that system, and can only feel complete when we are part of that system.  Hunting brings all of my senses alive and makes the hair stand up on the back of my head.

You city-folk don't fully understand that, because you are no longer a part of the system.  Modern society divorces you from it.  Your idea of being a part of the natural system is building a 10,000 square foot "log home" 10 acres of cleared land on a hilltop to enjoy the "view" in a wilderness state such as Colorado, or Montana, or Wyoming.

Live your "civilized" life any way you want to, but leave me alone to enjoy a life-style that is older and richer in lore and culture than anything urbania can offer.