Author Topic: Zulu and Greentail are trolls (Read 1168 times)

spitfiremkv · « **Reply #15 on:** February 26, 2005, 10:36:36 AM »

my avatar is a troll but I am not

Sandman · « **Reply #16 on:** February 26, 2005, 11:43:40 AM »

Gunslinger · « **Reply #17 on:** February 26, 2005, 11:53:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
1) Depends on the human toll it would cost to bring said democracy as opposed to letting their own people demand/fight for it.

2)Depends on whether they will just use democracy to "elect" people that still hate us.

Two very good questions...

1. What do you think is "too much" as far as the human toll is concerned? Do you think democracy in the middle east will reduce terrorism or terror havens?

2. I happen to feel that even an ELECTED leader that hates us is still better than a tyranical dictator that hates us. Democracys are usually based on checks and balences.

Airhead · « **Reply #18 on:** February 26, 2005, 12:57:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
1. What do you think is "too much" as far as the human toll is concerned? Do you think democracy in the middle east will reduce terrorism or terror havens?

2. I happen to feel that even an ELECTED leader that hates us is still better than a tyranical dictator that hates us. Democracys are usually based on checks and balences.

1. I put that death toll at one- there's not one American life worth spending in Iraq, Somalia, Europe, Korea, Iran, Libya, or any other place around the world.

2. I couldn't care less if other leaders are elected or not- wasn't Hitler elected?- and I damn sure don't care enough to invest American lives to replace one tolotarian regime with another.

Raider179 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 26, 2005, 01:57:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
1. What do you think is "too much" as far as the human toll is concerned? Do you think democracy in the middle east will reduce terrorism or terror havens?

2. I happen to feel that even an ELECTED leader that hates us is still better than a tyranical dictator that hates us. Democracys are usually based on checks and balences.

I guess the number would be the number of American lives that would be saved by said regime change. Since we dont know that number it does make it kind of an impossibility to pin it down. I am starting to think democracy in the middle east is going to increase terrorism. These fanatics are gaining freedoms they never had and are exploiting them. Seems to me that people have to be willing to stand up and demand freedom before it actually means something to them.

I don't mean just a leader. I am talking most of their government. It might be slightly better but I dont think it was worth 1500 american soldiers, 300 or so contractors that have died, and all that money. Seems the change over there is more cosmetic than anything but only time will tell.

Rolex · « **Reply #20 on:** February 26, 2005, 04:54:12 PM »

Iraq has never been about terrorism, freedom or democracy for Iraqis, or WMD either, so the questions are moot. The strategic imperative for invasion was determined in the late 1990's.

In the eyes of policy and doctrine makers, the costs so far are 'acceptable' in their view of the world in a few short years ahead without an invasion. Iraq is more about China than it is the middle east.

Tumor · « **Reply #21 on:** February 26, 2005, 09:17:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
Iraq has never been about terrorism, freedom or democracy for Iraqis, or WMD either, so the questions are moot. The strategic imperative for invasion was determined in the late 1990's.

In the eyes of policy and doctrine makers, the costs so far are 'acceptable' in their view of the world in a few short years ahead without an invasion. Iraq is more about China than it is the middle east.

Pretty good theory.

Raider179 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 27, 2005, 03:13:19 AM »

Anyone ever read John Perkins Confessions of an Economic Hitman?

Zulu7 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 27, 2005, 07:04:13 AM »

Just a point Gunslinger. Before you get all upset ( oops too late!) about me not responding. Bear in mind that I'm here in UK and if you are in the Mojhave desert then there is about an 8 hour time difference!

Besides which I don't spend my whole life on this BBs I do actualy have other things to do.

So thats all from this troll on the subject goodbye and thankyou one and all.

Zulu7 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 27, 2005, 10:00:33 AM »

Aw no comeback Gunslinger? Oh yeah you must be doing something else more important or still in bed !

Gunslinger · « **Reply #25 on:** February 27, 2005, 11:12:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Zulu7
Aw no comeback Gunslinger? Oh yeah you must be doing something else more important or still in bed !

as you said I dont spend my life on this BBS. Your first post was at 5AM my time (its the weekend so I'm still in bed) your second was 3 hours later (its the weekend so I'm watching cartoons with my kids)

Again you post just to stir the pot without adding any ounce of content or substanence......you just keep on proving my point

Maverick · « **Reply #26 on:** February 27, 2005, 11:19:14 AM »

GS,

You can add gscholtz (Baghdad Bob), and now nuke to your list.

Zulu7 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 27, 2005, 02:25:52 PM »

gunslinger I thinkyou just proved my point and yet you still thought you'd won some kind of daft argument. Oh well

AirWölf · « **Reply #28 on:** February 27, 2005, 02:53:45 PM »

Gunslinger is right about the title of this thread. Also.... moot, your sig is wrong man. Just thought i'd let ya know that, Cheers