Author Topic: I DONT BELIEVE THIS!!!!, free ipod please read (Read 789 times)

moose · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:44:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Does the media that you download through itunes work in hardware other than ipod?

Does ipod play wmv etc. files?

Not to my knowledge.

not to nitpick here, but dont backtrack..

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
I'd never want to tie myself into a piece of hardware that does not support the pc platform

not supporting a platform is a completely different ballgame then having a proprietary file system. i'm not an ipod fanboi by any means, either. i'd rather it supported mp3s right out but i can understand why they force you to import into their software.. software which is fully compatible with winxp.. and i havent tried yet but i'd reckon that you prolly could import wma's into iTunes, too.

and not to nitpick some more.. but..

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
The graphics are amazing. Too bad it lacks the realism that would make this game an absolute winner. No damage modeling, arcade physics etc. I'm really tempted to get it but it's questionable if I'd ever bother to actually play it.

i'll give you the benefit here and say you really weren't slamming gt4, but at the same time your comments above dont make it clear you were mentioing a review until a couple posts later.. and then even later on you say that you'll 'never buy a ps2' because of the import costs.

i'm not trying to start a flame war but it just seems like you feel you need to add something or other to every bit of conversation on this board.. and until corrected, it's usually negative comments

but whatever, its a dumb message board so in the great scheme of things it really doesnt matter

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2005, 06:44:59 AM »

Well moose, as far as I know, realism has always been _the_ issue with the whole GT series. This has been stressed with every review I've read of the series.

My opinnion has always been that graphics alone do not make a game, it must have good playability and some sort of realism to interest me.

So after seeing the hype and the graphics, the discovery of the lacking realism was a great let down - which is why I stated it was the only thing stoping it from becoming (and I quote myself) an absolute winner.

If that's a slam to you and if you really need to whine about it, suite yourself.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2005, 06:49:35 AM »

As what goes to Ipod, I will remain in my position of it.

I already own a $600 portable hd player, I'm not going to cash in Apple to buy thier hardware just to be able to use thier own non-standard media.

The Ipod can't even play back video for crying out loud. Not to mention all music files have to be converted to it. Not to mention you need to install Apple software on your puter to use it (which has nice side-effects such as W2k boxes not booting after installation etc.) So it simply sucks.

That's my opinnion, you won't change it and I will never purhase one or take it even for free.

Manedew · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2005, 08:44:58 AM »

Ya Ipods stink IMHO ..... get an open standard 'mp3' player.... should play nice thigns like SHN's and WAV's and even Mpegs are easy an nice .... they are free open standards unlike what apple is doing .....

sooner or later Ipod's will be trash noone wants... it's too bloody propreitary.

anyone see Blade 3 where the girl makes her Ipod list ....LMAO!

I really don't goto the movies to watch corprate comercials put in like that...

I don't like Ipod ... Apple is cool otherwise tho

Chairboy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2005, 09:19:57 AM »

I don't know where y'all got the idea that the iPod forces you to use iTunes to import music, that's not true. I've formatted my iPod as a FAT32 drive. When I plug it in, it shows up as an external hard drive, and I just drag and drop MP3s into it. It plays MP3s native just fine.

It's a nice player, not junk, but for best value/power, check out Archos.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #20 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:35:53 AM »

I actually had two reasons why I wanted to rain on his parade.

First reason was that by screaming hell about free ipod's he probably lures more victims to the hands of different scam artists. Nothing on internet is free by rule of thumb. There are exceptions, but a few.

Even HTC:s 'free' 2 weeks won't be free because you'll get addicted and spend the next nights on the game.

Second reason was that I detest any system such as ipod/itunes which attracts people into getting a piece of hardware that is not readily compatible with any standard format. I was surprised to hear you can actually reformat and use Ipod as a normal player. 99% of the owners won't know it or do it though.

Other vendors such as mentioned Archos can provide a way better compatability and capacity for practically the same price.

Chairboy · « **Reply #21 on:** March 01, 2005, 11:17:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Second reason was that I detest any system such as ipod/itunes which attracts people into getting a piece of hardware that is not readily compatible with any standard format. I was surprised to hear you can actually reformat and use Ipod as a normal player. 99% of the owners won't know it or do it though.

Other vendors such as mentioned Archos can provide a way better compatability and capacity for practically the same price.

Just because some users won't know that they CAN do it shouldn't damn the hardware in the same way you would if it COULDN'T do it.

Part of buying an iPod is the style. Why do people buy Ferrari's when a Chevrolet will get them there equally as well, PLUS the Chevy has OnStar? Same applies here. The iPod has super slick usabillity (as evidenced by the massive adoption rate, even among technical novices) and a nice appearance. That counts for a lot more then 'Oh yeah, well the XYZ player has OGG Vorbis support' because it directly affects more people.

That said, I just advised my technical friend to get an AV420 while I told my sister to get an iPod. A generalization like 'iPods suck' doesn't really tell anyone anything and is verifiably untrue. If they sucked, they wouldn't sell. Is it possible that they aren't the right player for you specifically? Absolutely!

Absolutes are never accurate.
heh

Estes · « **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2005, 11:26:50 AM »

Sorry to hijack, but I was looking into an Mp3 player.

What do you guys think between a Creative Nomad jukebox thingy player, and an Ipod?

All I really want to do is listen to music, to get rid of the clunky portable CD player.

I have XM radio in the car, so I don't really need to use it in the car.

Chairboy · « **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2005, 11:56:02 AM »

What type of car? What kind of head unit do you have in your car? If you drive a BMW or have an Alpine head unit, there are reasons to check out the iPod because there are some really nice integration options.

The Creative Nomad is a great player too, longest living line of MP3 players on the market, if I recall correctly. I think it's bigger then the iPod, but unless you're putting it into a pocket on your spandex jogging suit, that might not be a problem. You should check it out in person, not just buy online, to make sure the size is what you expect.

SOB · « **Reply #24 on:** March 01, 2005, 12:12:46 PM »

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Originally posted by moose
i'm not an ipod fanboi by any means, either. i'd rather it supported mp3s right out but i can understand why they force you to import into their software.. software which is fully compatible with winxp.. and i havent tried yet but i'd reckon that you prolly could import wma's into iTunes, too.

I had no idea. It does suck.

Estes · « **Reply #25 on:** March 01, 2005, 12:43:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
What type of car? What kind of head unit do you have in your car? If you drive a BMW or have an Alpine head unit, there are reasons to check out the iPod because there are some really nice integration options.

The Creative Nomad is a great player too, longest living line of MP3 players on the market, if I recall correctly. I think it's bigger then the iPod, but unless you're putting it into a pocket on your spandex jogging suit, that might not be a problem. You should check it out in person, not just buy online, to make sure the size is what you expect.

'03 Pathfinder. I'm not big into sound systems for the car, so it just has factory speakers.

I've seen both of them, either one is fine with me. Just wondering what you think would be best suited for just using it listen to music. Bascialy, replacing a portable CD player.

Chairboy · « **Reply #26 on:** March 01, 2005, 12:47:18 PM »

For that, go with as cheap as you can get, they're all good. One feature I like in the iPod is the remote controls, eg, there's a fob on the headphones that you can use to go next, back, pause, etc. The Archos offers that as an add-on option (which also adds FM radio support, pretty neat), but I don't know about the Nomad and I'm too lazy to google it.

Chairboy · « **Reply #27 on:** March 01, 2005, 12:48:01 PM »

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I had no idea. It does suck.

Actually, moose was wrong when he said you were forced to use their software to import. Does that cancel out your message?

SOB · « **Reply #28 on:** March 01, 2005, 12:49:38 PM »

I got the impression from his post that the files need to be converted to a proprietary format before being loaded onto the iPaq. Is that not the case?

Vulcan · « **Reply #29 on:** March 01, 2005, 01:13:59 PM »

Ipods are crippleware.

For example, the latest Ipod shuffle uses the same chipset as Creative MP3 players, it can have an LCD, FM Tuner, Record, and play WMA files... but Apple have enabled NONE of the features and charged more.

Then theres the whole battery issue on Ipods...