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Offline TweetyBird

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« Reply #225 on: March 10, 2005, 09:53:01 PM »
Martlet - hows this for lucidity? What has your panties in a wad is I told you - in direct response to *you* "I'm not anybody."

That boiled you to the core, because this world has room for only one special person, and you believe its you :D
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Offline TweetyBird

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« Reply #226 on: March 10, 2005, 09:57:52 PM »
It took Martlet seven posts to get on the subject of sodomy..


>>Getting behind guys is nothing new for you.<<

He returned to it later. I find it interesting... or not.
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« Reply #227 on: March 10, 2005, 10:07:29 PM »
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Originally posted by TweetyBird


And you have quoted not one. I figure its because you're lieing or you're lazy.


What is it with you nutcases and your third grade reading levels?  I haven't quoted one?  I certainly did.   If refusing to give personal information in the same comment you demand it of someone else isn't hypocrisy, I don't know what is.  Not surprising you ignore it, though.  It's all the same with you guys.  You figure if you say something often enough, people will just assume it's fact.  


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I hope you don't intend to have a legit discussion with Martlet. He'll just troll you along twisting turning insulting and baiting all the way.. It's how he get his jollies.. Kinda makes him feel that special tingly feeling


I knew it would be too much to ask you to back up your claims.

I'm lowering your rank to an even 3.0.  That one barely made it on the board.

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Naa, I'm just waiting for him to post that code that supported his position.


Oh, I get it now.  If you pretend I just didn't post it again in the last thread, it doesn't really exist.  I guess being wrong really bothers you.

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Martlet, Maverick et al, you have no conception of the interpretation of the constitution being fluid and not set in stone


The old "you just don't get it" defense.  That's an old one.  Unfortunately, the facts just aren't on your side, as numerous people have shown.  

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I'll give one - when it was proven you were flat out wrong about someone having to be booked to make an arrest public record you began an insult barrage .


That's a false statement.  Quote it.


You were shown to be a fool.  Your self important ego was bruised.  You back pedaled.  Then you made stuff up.  Then when proven wrong, you impugned Maverick's character.

You got owned.  It hurts you.  So now you'll sit around and cry about it.

Much like Lazerus, who can't even respond anymore.
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Offline TweetyBird

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« Reply #228 on: March 10, 2005, 10:41:11 PM »
>>quote it<<

ok..

>>Correct. When they are charged and booked it becomes public record. When they are detained, it is not.
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Wrong, Its public record before they are charged or booked. Its public record when they are in custody. In really busy cities it can be 24 hours or more before they are charged or booked. Its public record when they are in custody. And the whole point is the fact you were trying to say they wouldn't tell "anyone" whether or not they had someone in custody because that person hadn't been booked yet. That was completely wrong. Then you tried to save your wrong self by saying they didn't have to reveal a minor in custody which had nothing to do with anything.

I get the feeling you don't like being wrong :D

>>You got owned.<<

You need to get GED'ed.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2005, 10:43:36 PM by TweetyBird »
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« Reply #229 on: March 10, 2005, 11:00:46 PM »
Tweety Bird.....
I don't know where you live, God I hope its not near me!

Just because I'm detaining you doesn't mean I need to call the flipping news paper and report it.

God I still hate people.....

The correct answer is 42.
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Offline Pei

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« Reply #230 on: March 10, 2005, 11:04:04 PM »
Can you two get a room please?
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Offline Shane

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« Reply #231 on: March 10, 2005, 11:18:17 PM »
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Then someone said you are able to walk away from detention if you choose, so I reposted the code to show that you couldn't.  
 


I just feel the need to chime in on this point.

One *is* able to walk away from detention. In certain states, say, Texas for example, if one *chooses* to walk away from detention they may be arrested/charged.  At that point it is no longer detention. duh.

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« Reply #232 on: March 10, 2005, 11:22:45 PM »
>>Just because I'm detaining you doesn't mean I need to call the flipping news paper and report it.
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with something being public record.

>>Tweety Bird.....
I don't know where you live, God I hope its not near me!
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lol - I'm sure its not - I think we should trade California :D


(juuuuustttt kidding)
« Last Edit: March 10, 2005, 11:25:29 PM by TweetyBird »
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« Reply #233 on: March 10, 2005, 11:35:15 PM »
>>Can you two get a room please?

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We have one - its called "Arrest Mistake"

Should you be in here?
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« Reply #234 on: March 10, 2005, 11:53:58 PM »
FALSE IMPRISONMENT - Any intentional detention of the person of another not authorized by law is false imprisonment. It is any illegal imprisonment, without any process whatever, or under color of process wholly illegal, without regard to the question whether any crime has been committed or a debt due.


But I like this one.... Nonconsensual its a big word..so look it up if you got to.

Under California law, false imprisonment is the 'nonconsensual, intentional confinement of a person, without lawful privilege, for an appreciable length of time, however short.' Fermino v. Fedco, Inc., 872 P.2d 559, 567 (Cal.'94)

more here

False Imprisonment
The detainment or arrest of a person without a warrant, with an illegal warrant, or with a warrant illegally executed. So long as the person is deprived of his personal liberty, the amount of time actually detained is inconsequential. see, e.g. Schenck v. Pro Choice Network
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« Reply #235 on: March 11, 2005, 05:15:30 AM »
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Originally posted by Shane
I just feel the need to chime in on this point.

One *is* able to walk away from detention. In certain states, say, Texas for example, if one *chooses* to walk away from detention they may be arrested/charged.  At that point it is no longer detention. duh.

:aok


I might add to that by saying again....

If one *does* choose to walk away , one *will* be visiting  Tobey and the boys on the local cellblock.
Lots of things on paper mean less than nothing when you are dining on Oscar Meyer for the evening. It`s reality that counts at that time and most just don`t care to, or have time to, hold a debate with you on the letter of the law.
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« Reply #236 on: March 11, 2005, 06:45:01 AM »
Not necessarily.  It does force an officer to supposedly exercise his judgement, tho' and make a decison. Any ensuing consequence(s) will very likely be handled by those who's job it *is* debating the letter of the law.

Nice try with the scare tactic, tho' .  The initial holding cell is not normally the "local cellblock" with Tobey looking for a girlfriend for the next week.  And remember, kids, it varies state to state with the "laws" regarding detention.
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« Reply #237 on: March 11, 2005, 06:52:57 AM »
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Originally posted by Shane
I just feel the need to chime in on this point.

One *is* able to walk away from detention. In certain states, say, Texas for example, if one *chooses* to walk away from detention they may be arrested/charged.  At that point it is no longer detention. duh.

:aok


Well, no crap.  One may shoot somebody, one may drive drunk, one may shoplift.

We're talking legality.

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FALSE IMPRISONMENT - .....


I'd like to see the link on the last example.  Every other example clearly states outside the body of law or illegally.  It has nothing to do with legal detainment.

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Not necessarily.  It does force an officer to supposedly exercise his judgement, tho' and make a decison. Any ensuing consequence(s) will very likely be handled by those who's job it *is* debating the letter of the law.

Nice try with the scare tactic, tho' .  The initial holding cell is not normally the "local cellblock" with Tobey looking for a girlfriend for the next week.  And remember, kids, it varies state to state with the "laws" regarding detention.


You're correct, it apparently depends on the state.  However, it doesn't neccessarily have to be a tough decision.  Take the code I quoted that Lazerus can't see for example.  It says avoiding arrest or detainment.  If you witness a homicide and the police tell you to stay put for questioning, you've done nothing wrong at this point.  You decide instead that your Constitutional rights are being violated, flip off the cop, and run away to go call your "connections" because you're "not just anybody".

Now you've broken the law.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2005, 07:00:03 AM by Martlet »
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« Reply #238 on: March 11, 2005, 08:46:55 AM »
Quite entertaining..  Proven wrong on so many different counts, yet continue to argue..  The only redeeming quality here is the determination..  Even to the point of idoicy..  But still entertaining!   lmao
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« Reply #239 on: March 11, 2005, 08:59:02 AM »
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Quite entertaining..  Proven wrong on so many different counts, yet continue to argue..  The only redeeming quality here is the determination..  Even to the point of idoicy..  But still entertaining!   lmao


HEY!  The peanut gallery.  Completely ignored the questions I asked regarding his previous and presented new ones.  Let's see if he'll continue his overt troll, or pony up.

Name "so many " counts on which I've been proven wrong.

So far your 3.0 is a gift.  It's falling fast.
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