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« Reply #180 on: March 10, 2005, 08:38:40 AM »
Go away skydancer. you have not wasted enough of everyones time yet?

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« Reply #181 on: March 10, 2005, 08:39:36 AM »
They are in a war zone.
Chit happens.
Best advice would be, if ya don`t won`t your *** capped stay off the roads while a war is going on.
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« Reply #182 on: March 10, 2005, 08:43:07 AM »
There was me thinking the war is over!

In fairness I agree that to drive around at breakneck speed especialy at military checkpoints ignoring orders to stop is not too clever.

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« Reply #183 on: March 10, 2005, 08:44:52 AM »
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There was me thinking the war is over!

In fairness I agree that to drive around at breakneck speed especialy at military checkpoints ignoring orders to stop is not too clever.


It`s a long, long way from over.
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« Reply #184 on: March 10, 2005, 08:50:56 AM »
Another vietnam? Isn't that what the pentagon et al were desperately trying to avoid? Maybe its un solvable. They have their elected govt. Maybe its time to pull out.

Its atricky one though as to do that might court disaster. how long would the new  administration be able to survive!

Maybe my grasp of history aint so good but Vietnam had a shaky pro US govt. When you guys pulled out it quickly collapsed.

Its a big mess and make no mistake. Thats easy to see. The hard part  is sorting that out.

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« Reply #185 on: March 10, 2005, 09:18:55 AM »
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Another vietnam?
 


Not hardly. The military don`t have their hands tied here.

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Its atricky one though as to do that might court disaster. how long would the new administration be able to survive!


Wanna put that in something resembling English?

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Maybe its time to pull out.

I wouldn`t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.....at least as far as the U.S. is concerned.

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Its a big mess and make no mistake. Thats easy to see. The hard part is sorting that out.


Doesn`t appear to be a big mess from my stand point. Quite the opposite. A hell of a good job has been done there IMO. It`s being "sorted out" in fine fashion. It is also just a starting point. There is yet to be a lot of work done there and in other areas as well and they will be done despite the crying and moaning. On that you can bet.
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« Reply #186 on: March 10, 2005, 09:44:24 AM »
I look at it this way. Until there is proof otherwise I'm going to side with our troops.

Do I have anything more than he said she said?

No!

So I chose to believe the people that are there every day trying to bring peace to Iraq and not the ones that are there to cause problems.

Is this a product of watching Fox news? Maybe but I watch CNN also so how does that fit in?

Granted I didn't check with the communist paper to see their side of it but I think I can figure that out  myself.
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« Reply #187 on: March 10, 2005, 10:06:21 AM »
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A bullet hole in the glass can be seen near the wiper.

After taking 300 to 400 hits as Sgrena said, I expected to see something like this:



Holden, investigations here in Italy (on the car they got back) show that "only" about 20-30 small caliber bullets (IIRC) hit mainly the *side* of the car. So, those 300-400 claimed hits were obviously only what a schocked woman thinks to remember after the accident. However, those side hits are a little strange since we are talking about a road block. But lets wait for the results of the joint investigation.
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« Reply #188 on: March 10, 2005, 10:14:02 AM »
Mighty1, I like your approach.  Honest and straightforward and as such I respect it.
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« Reply #189 on: March 10, 2005, 10:23:16 AM »
The report I heard said 12 hits not 30 or 300 plus like she was claiming.

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« Reply #190 on: March 10, 2005, 10:27:00 AM »
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The report I heard said 12 hits not 30 or 300 plus like she was claiming.


Why how dare you sir!!!! Surely you are not suggesting that a Commie reporter might stretch the truth . :D
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« Reply #191 on: March 10, 2005, 10:47:25 AM »
Well, reasonably speaking, the *difference* is between 20-30 and 300, not between 20-30 and 12. The first big result is that the car was not hit by a hell of a fire. Simply some second of fire from a single automatic rifle. Not counting shots that have missed, of course.

BTW, "Week End Warriors" reservists of First Battalion, 69th Infantry, are not famous for their training at all. The journalist have been very lucky, IMO.
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« Reply #192 on: March 10, 2005, 11:35:43 AM »
So anyone disagreeing with the US policy in Iraq is now a communist? Who desrves to die?

Are you guys sure this iswhat you meant?

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« Reply #193 on: March 10, 2005, 12:05:40 PM »
I'd say being banned once already for the only possible infraction on this forum, that is being either stupidly belligerent or belligerently stupid, should be a clue as to any question you might have about the other non-banned posters' attitude here.
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« Reply #194 on: March 10, 2005, 12:15:42 PM »
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So anyone disagreeing with the US policy in Iraq is now a communist?  


Zulu try to get a grip would ya?
She is a communist reporter by her own definition. Got that?
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