Author Topic: 128 meg video cards (Read 843 times)

Reschke · « **Reply #15 on:** March 08, 2005, 12:22:47 PM »

I went from an Abit Siluro 128MB Geforce4 Ti4400 card to a BFG 128MB Geforce 6800 OC. The difference isn't so much speed in this upgrade as it was image quality and clarity. In the tower I get 59 fps and when flying it stays in that same range sometimes dropping down to around 40-45 fps. I am running an Athlon64 3200+ with 1GB DDR400 RAM.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2005, 12:26:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Assuming equal memory speeds, will the extra 128 be used by AH skuzzy?

If it needs it,, then yes.

humble · « **Reply #17 on:** March 08, 2005, 04:58:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Octavius
I very recently bought an X800 Pro 256mb (VIVO). Flashed it to an X800XT 256.

Former card was a 9600XT 128mb

Biggest difference I would say is the flawless framerate. With animated water enabled it never drops below 50. Usually disable it because I cannot judge my position relative to the water when looking down.

I have 1gig of system ram, so I would precache everything in there. It isn't the best grade ram and has CAS of 3. The first thing I tried when running AH2 with the x800 was precache everything in video memory. I run textures at 1024 and I lose the option of precaching everything in vidmem. At 512 it is fine. I don't think that's a problem with the x800 though. I haven't seen it use more than 75mb at any point, even in heavily congested areas. If a texture isn't on hand, it loads so quick I can't really notice.

Dunno. I don't think many games are taking advantage of the 256mb at this time. I could be wrong.

How do you flash that card...I have a gigabyte X800pro and would love to at least explore the possibilities...

humble · « **Reply #18 on:** March 08, 2005, 05:04:03 PM »

When I was looking into cards recently Toms had a pretty good set of benchmarks (38 VC's or so)...they had some 128/256 of same model...was a 10-15% performance differance I think...from what I recall the speed of the pipe was more important than the amount of memory...a 64 bit pipe was less effective than a 128 with double memory and a 256 pipe more important than 256 meg....

your better of with a 128 meg memory and a 256 pipe than 256 meg and a 128 or 64 bit pipe....

214thCavalier · « **Reply #19 on:** March 08, 2005, 06:50:28 PM »

Humble it has to be the X800 Pro VIVO version to be flash capable.
Gigabytes have a very high success rate of getting the full X800XT PE speeds.
If thats what you have we can provide links etc.
Mine flashed and has run at X800 XT PE speeds for many months now.

Pongo · « **Reply #20 on:** March 09, 2005, 11:04:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
If it needs it,, then yes.

lol

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2005, 11:36:02 AM »

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Originally posted by humble
When I was looking into cards recently Toms had a pretty good set of benchmarks (38 VC's or so)...they had some 128/256 of same model...was a 10-15% performance differance I think...from what I recall the speed of the pipe was more important than the amount of memory...a 64 bit pipe was less effective than a 128 with double memory and a 256 pipe more important than 256 meg....

your better of with a 128 meg memory and a 256 pipe than 256 meg and a 128 or 64 bit pipe....

Agree 100%. The memory bus width is by far the biggest restrictor of speed. Many companies use similar or identical chipsets on different cards and underclock the "value" ones, but they save more money keeping the bus width small. You can OC a card all you want, but you will never make a card with a 64 bit memory bus run like a card with a 256 bit memory bus. Speed of the memory itself would be right behind that as a limiting factor.

streakeagle · « **Reply #22 on:** March 09, 2005, 03:07:47 PM »

If you run at 1600x1200x32 with x4 FSAA or higher, that chomps up some video memory... add in high resolution textures, and 128MB just won't do it. Given the fact that some of the sims I play allow very high resolution textures and that I love playing at 1600x1200x32, I could use as much video memory as I can afford.

I have been running on 1GB of system RAM and 128MB of Video RAM for a very long time and have enjoyed the benefits. But now I need a video card with that much RAM and 2 to 4 GB of system RAM to run my sims they way I want. Of course it would help if I had a CPU and motherboard that was designed this century

humble · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2005, 05:16:53 PM »

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Originally posted by 214thCavalier
Humble it has to be the X800 Pro VIVO version to be flash capable.
Gigabytes have a very high success rate of getting the full X800XT PE speeds.
If thats what you have we can provide links etc.
Mine flashed and has run at X800 XT PE speeds for many months now.

I have a GV-R80P256D....not sure if thats VIVO or not....

214thCavalier · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2005, 06:34:02 PM »

Your out of luck, should have purchased the GV-R80P256V version.

That would be the version capable of video editing VIVO (video in, video out).

Your card the standard X800 Pro is not capable of being flashed to the 16 pipe version.

Standard pro's had some traces laser cut, whereas the X800Pro Vivo is to all intents an X800 XT vivo with an altered bios to reduce the working pipelines and clock speeds.