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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2005, 09:34:45 PM »
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Electrical outlets:  When cutting holes in sheetrock for electrical outlets, you can mark where to cut by placing the outlet face plate on the sheetrock and then outlining around it.


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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2005, 09:36:43 PM »
After performing a self appendectomy with my Leatherman multi tool an a bottle of scotch while I was climbing Mt. Logan last winter, drywall doesn't seem that difficult.
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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2005, 09:46:48 PM »
I did construction in my early years, but I would still think twice about doing anything myself. Then again, I have seen the work of "professionals", and holy jebus, it looked like they took the short bus to work.

My dad's house, which was 're'-built before he bought it, was the most amazing showcase of mentally handi-incapable contractors and carpenters evar! Prelude - We had owned the house several years before, it was literally a shanty. Prerequisite to demolishing the old house and building a new one, it needs to be built on one cornerstone of the old structure. No problem, they atleast got that right.

He first moves in, I am at the time 18 so I am naturally with him starting college, and I like the location and don't give the house a thorough look down. A week later, I realise some glaring problems. Floor trim does not match up properly in many areas, tiling that has been cut around the fireplace (I'll explain if anyone wants to know what type of fireplace I mean) does not meet the walls. There are two areas of the drywall that are bent at the ends to attach to the studs...? The bathroom attached to my bedroom has towel racks. They have been placed there by someone with a severe list. The first one was placed relatively level, the second rack was, well, he had put away a few to say the least. A few years later, my dad learns the shower was made of 2x4s with tile and grout covering it. Needless to say, he had to have a local remodelor/contractor come in and redo it (this guy is amazing!). Prior to the bathroom incident  the nails in the ceiling holding the drywall into the ceiling began popping out. Not just the boob type of bulges, but literally popping out and falling to the floor. The plumbing was also improperly done in certain areas causing rot, and five electrical outlets had been miswired.

So basically what I'm getting at is, don't trust anyone. If you can't do it yourself, find someone that can, but be SURE the person has a good reputation.
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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2005, 09:52:56 PM »
This April will be one year in my first home.  Its been a fun year.  

I've learned...

1)  Homes detect when you have extra money

2)  Furnaces only go BOOM on Sunday nights when the labor rate is double.  (Mine backfired last Sunday, 2 hours of labor and replaced both the injector nozzle and control box)

3)  Those nice people next door with a teenage son will turn on you in a heartbeat.  That cute dog now barks up a storm anytime he sees his shadow.  The kid will attempt to drive 60mph to the stop sign that is 40 feet away.  And he feels that we should all enjoy his "Yo yo" music.  His busted up car has 90 horsepower while his subwoofers have 200.

4)  No matter how hard you try, the paperboy just doesnt understand the science of opening the door, inserting newspaper then closing door.

5)  My trashmen will take away nuclear waste, spent bazooka shells, hand grenades and even a neatly disassembled MiG-29.  They wont, however, take one trashbag full of lawn clippings.

6) The mail comes everyday at 10, except when you are expecting a check.

I could go on....but there's a few  :)

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« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2005, 09:58:15 PM »
*snicker*

This is a great thread.  I have met Dred, the ninja of the trades.

Sorry to burst your bubble Dred, but there are those out there who can get it done just like you ninja masters.

 Years of knowledge and experience are invaluable I agree but it doesn't take much to call upon a ninja, get good advice, then follow instructions.
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« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2005, 10:00:23 PM »
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No matter how hard you try, the paperboy just doesnt understand the science of opening the door, inserting newspaper then closing door.


Ya can't blame the kid for that. Before moving into your neck of the woods, he worked a few routes in Dixon.

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« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2005, 10:18:18 PM »
Me: Well, Sir, you certainly CAN do it yourself, but I don't  recommend it.

He:  You want too much, have the product delivered, I'll do it myself.

He's wife, 2 days later:  He is on the couch with a sprained back, can you come finish the job?

Me:  Sure, but I have to redo what he did, so now it is +25%

Her:  No problem.



That is the rule, not the exception.

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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2005, 11:10:41 PM »
Remodelled the kitchen last summer, new floors on main floor of house, tore out pantry - rebuilt wall from old remodel.  Looks great, less than half of what I woulda had to pay a contractor.

Downside was it took more time (maybe) because I didn't know some of the tricks of the trade.  All ya gotta do is ask someone...and sometimes you even have to redo something.  Still costs much less and quality is the same...plus now you KNOW how it was built/installed etc.

Wasn't the first time I ever picked up a hammer, though I really think most anyone with some common sense and a desire to learn can do most home improvement jobs.  There are alot of resources for finding the info....you just have to have the common sense to do the research.

I don't think any contractors will go out of business due to massive numbers of people doing it themselves however.  Plenty of folks will pay good money to someone to do anything involving manual labor or the amount of patience it takes to make that sort of work look nice.  I made a good second job out of fencing and deck contracts for a long time before figuring out landscaping was more fun (not much to do in winter) and that's about the easiest construction project one could do.


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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2005, 11:26:04 PM »
My house is 100 years old. I hate opening any part of it because the Harry Home Owner clan has worked on it from ancestor HHO, great grand dad HHO, grand dad HHO, HHO senior, HHO and I think HHO in diapers.

If I open a wall, I have to open it from end to end every time so I can bring the 6 generations of code violations up to the 21st century. Like the exaust vent that was cut through a 2x4 and no support header and  blocking installed to take the load.

Or the first time I went into the crawl space to change the length on a gas pipe riser to the stove. Yes I turned off the gas. When I reached up and grabbed the pipe, the preassure junction slipped its last thread and dropped 6 ft of pipe on my face and chest. When I had it inspected for purcasing, the inspector did have a badddd case of gas. So I thought thats what was coming up from the floor.

There have been some fun things. Found a drug bottle in a wall from the 20's. Over the counter liquid cocain to sooth teething children, achs and pains, and help with those regulare female concerns. Pulled up the kitchen flooring and found a checker board linoleum floor. Pulled it up and found sheets of newspaper were laid down to cover the cracks in the 1 inch sub flooring strips. Did any of you know that in 1933 the price of a car in San Francisco was $500? Or that Dagwood Bumstead originally was kinda of portly? I pulled a weird shelving structure out of broom closet that was made of 1943 ammo crates with 1943 NRA victory stickers all over it.

I still have to remodel the bathroom. The toilet is a 1934 vintage crapper. Some chick in the 60's decided to panel the walls with 1 inch toung and groove from a sauna kit. Collects dust and is a pain in the arse to cleen. She decided to mount them  finished side to the wall.

Some guy in the 80's repaired motorcycles all over the house and liked to stick a knife in the floor. Or maybe he dropped his engines alot. I think in the 70's a bunch of college students rented the house. If you ever lived in a dorm at college you can tell by all the poorly patched nail and thumb tack holes in all of the rooms they were used as bed rooms by college students.

Well its not all bad. At least when I work on it, I fix all 6 generations of mistakes once and for all.

Oh here's a tip. Get one of those $29.95 circuit tracers from like Home Depot. It's the one where you plug a tone generator into your outlet, and then you go to the panel with the receiver and it picks up which circuits to turn off. Harry Home Owner does a nasty cheap trick with wiring. He pulls from anywhere thats easy to access when he runs a new outlet or switch. You may think you just turned off the wall outlets to the bedroom. Problem for me was that Harry wanted another outlet in the bedroom. I trusted the lables on the switch box. My standing lamp was off when I came back into the room. Gee Harry had pulled a line from the basement because he could see it. I was upgrading the receptical because Harry used the cheapest one he could pull out of the dumpster. At least after the sparks cleared and I unwelded my screw driver from my hand the O'l lady thought better of saying it was my fault that my bad words were offending her.......:)
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« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2005, 11:28:07 PM »
I think personal experience from my dad who is a contractor and a few semesters in technical education really paid off even I know how to spackle and i'm only 15.



Oh BTW did anyone explain to those screw ups how to hold a hammer or level?  Or even measure properly.....:rofl
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« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2005, 12:15:39 AM »
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*snicker*

This is a great thread.  I have met Dred, the ninja of the trades.

Sorry to burst your bubble Dred, but there are those out there who can get it done just like you ninja masters.

 Years of knowledge and experience are invaluable I agree but it doesn't take much to call upon a ninja, get good advice, then follow instructions.


When have we met?

Not saying there arent. Just that most cant.

Im not claiming to be a ninja master. I know alot of different things and there is alot I dont know.
What I know how to do right I do. what I am unsure of or am just plain not good at I get someone who does and is.
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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2005, 12:26:49 AM »
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It's probably the same way I feel about people who write their own wills with the aid of some "write your own will"  software.



Oh wills aren't all that hard really...  Until the old lady wants her watch to go to this one, her silverware to that one, her old shoes to the one that didn't call...  Etc.

Thank God most people go by the "%" plan.  Then its basically a form letter.  Depending on the software, I'd hope most people could handle it.

.....  Sorry for the hijack - I've been readin this entire thread and finally found something I could relate to :)
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« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2005, 12:38:32 AM »
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« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2005, 02:00:16 AM »
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Originaly posted by Jackal1: When I want something done right, I do it myself.


I hear you're a perfectionist especially when it comes to your sexlife.

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« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2005, 02:48:39 AM »
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I put on my robe and my wizard hat


I pry apart the battleship that is your ass.

Dingleberries hang from your unmanicured ass-hair.       Hell, something like that, I wish I still had the link to that thing. I still laugh every time I think about it.