slip Indicator

[Traveler]

“Fixed a bug in the film viewer that was putting the pilots viewpoint in the wrong position.
Note: This will not fix this problem on any films that were made between 2.02 Patch 2 and
2.02 Patch 3.

You can jump to other planes in the film viewer again.

Fixed a problem in the clipboard strat menu that could possibly lead to stability problems.

Strat status of multiple fields can now be checked without having to close the strat status menu.

Mosquito and P-51 slip indicators work correctly now.

Fixed turn indicator on Fw 190D.

Changed the default joystick mapping for the bailed out pilot to fire with the trigger.

Enabled run function on the bailed out pilot.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations”


I saw the above post listed in the announcements section of the BB by Pyro for the patch release.  

Just what is a “slip indicator”  Does he mean Turn & Bank Indicator?  Because I have never hear of an aircraft instrument called a slip indicator.

[Engine]

What's the slip indicator DO, anyway?  Never used it, I just fly it by feel.

[frank3]

It can indicate when you skid or slip

[LtPillur]

The slip indicator is part of the turn and bank indicator. It is the "bubble" or ball in the bottom. When the ball is to the right outside of the lines you are slipping to the right. And left means..well you are slipping to the left.
Peace
Pillur

[LtPillur]

Originally posted by Engine
What's the slip indicator DO, anyway?  Never used it, I just fly it by feel.

It essentially tells you (shows you actually ) when your ailerons and rudders are coordinated in a turn. Something a pilot will eventually "feel".  
Peace
Pillur

[LtPillur]

Originally posted by Engine
What's the slip indicator DO, anyway?  Never used it, I just fly it by feel.

It essentially tells you (shows you actually ) when your ailerons and rudders are coordinated in a turn. Something a pilot will eventually "feel".  
Peace
Pillur

[Engine]

Hell, I never bother with rudder in turns.

[frank3]

It can become handy when you roll (to the left) and start going down (Dutch roll) just give a little counter-rudder and you'll stay leveled.

[Wolf14]

I think a six inch piece of yarn and masking tape works better providing you have no engine.

[Traveler]

Originally posted by LtPillur
The slip indicator is part of the turn and bank indicator. It is the "bubble" or ball in the bottom. When the ball is to the right outside of the lines you are slipping to the right. And left means..well you are slipping to the left.
Peace
Pillur

That's close, but not 100% accurate.  The indicator we are discussing is known as the ball bank indicator, it provides Slip and Skid information about aircraft in flight.  the reason I originally raised the question was I thought it strange that HTC didn't call the instrument by it's correct name and LtPillur, there is a difference between a slip and a skid in an aircraft.  Do you know the difference? I do.

Needle, Ball and Airspeed.  The basics of flight.   but not every aircraft needed a turn and bank indicator.  But all aircraft were required to have a ball. (why is that) Only aircraft used for instrument flight were required to have a turn and bank indicator(that’s a clue).  The purpose of the ball was to prevent one thing,  cross controlled stalls.   The ball helped the pilot recognize a slip or a skid and correct for it.  As to how a skid differs from a slip, I’ll let you bright guys figure that one out on your own, a little research is very educational.  


Also Gliders and F14 TomCats do use yarn.  The F14 also has the ball, but most gliders don't.  And if you didn't khow it, a glider is always crossed controled when soaring.

[Wolf14]

Cross controled? MY glider flies just like a motorized plane and no cross controling at all. I just dont have an engine and to speed up I nose down and to slow up I pull up. Right pedal rudders rigth and left pedal rudders left. My coordianted turns are done just like I would do them in the motorized plane.

So basicaly I'm confused by what you mean by cross controlled. I have heard where some gliders can get in that condition when they are put together off the trailer, but even then its hard for me to see that happen because everything has a right and left side.

I do how ever use some uncoordinated turning while in tow. I have to keep my tow line tight so when the tow plane turns I keep my wings level and apply rudder to his outside wing and the tow plane pulls me through the turn. After release though I have no reason to use cross controling.

[Traveler]

Originally posted by Wolf14
Cross controled? MY glider flies just like a motorized plane and no cross controling at all. I just dont have an engine and to speed up I nose down and to slow up I pull up. Right pedal rudders rigth and left pedal rudders left. My coordianted turns are done just like I would do them in the motorized plane.

So basicaly I'm confused by what you mean by cross controlled. I have heard where some gliders can get in that condition when they are put together off the trailer, but even then its hard for me to see that happen because everything has a right and left side.

I do how ever use some uncoordinated turning while in tow. I have to keep my tow line tight so when the tow plane turns I keep my wings level and apply rudder to his outside wing and the tow plane pulls me through the turn. After release though I have no reason to use cross controling.

Lordy lordy lordy, are you telling me that you fly gliders and you use the ruder to turn left or right?  If you remember back to your training when you bank a glider because of the longer wing, the glider has an over banking tendency because in a bank the higher wing is moving faster and generates more lift which tends to increase the bank even after the controls are put in neutral, to control the over banking tendency, if you are in a left bank and climbing, you need to put control inputs in for right aileron, just to hold the desired left bank turn, I’m sure you remember that it’s not the ruder that turns an aircraft but the lift of the banked wing.  So, if you are in a left bank, holding right aileron with left ruder, you are in what is known as a cross controlled situation.  If the air craft stalls, you are in a crossed controlled stall.  This is true of any aircraft, however, because a cross controlled situation is the fastest way to a spin. That is why for a glider license spin training is mandatory.  You can find more information about cross controlled stalls in any primary flight manual.

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