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Offline GtoRA2

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« on: March 21, 2005, 04:04:18 PM »
John DeLorean dead at 80.


John and Jim Wangers(advertising/car guy) were
the guys who came up with the idea of throwing
a Big V8 in a midsize car in 63. GM had a limit, no
V8 larger then 350 Cubes in a mid size car.  

The result was the 64 GTO, a mid size car with
 a 389 Cubic inch V8, and a 3 speed manual.  
You could get a 2 speed auto or a 4 speed
manual as options. You could also order it
with Tri Power upping the HP from 325 to 345.

They had to hide the development from
the GM upper management, and got it
put in as a option package. When GM
management found out they were
upset and also convinced the option
would be a flop with less then 4000 in sales.

The option sold over 32,000 in the first
year, with no real advertising.

The option started the Muscle car craze,
 once Pontiac did it, all the other GM
divisions followed.  As did most other
American car makers.

By 65, the GTO was its own model.

To bad he messed up so bad in the 80s.

Thanks John, for making my favorite car.

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2005, 04:28:42 PM »
Also see this thread.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2005, 04:29:35 PM »
My thread is better, send them all here!

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2005, 04:33:01 PM »
He was first.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2005, 04:37:08 PM »
He is also on ignore lol.

besides what does some Brit guy know of Pontiac, Musclecars and an American Icon? :D

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2005, 04:39:02 PM »
I like threads started by goats better than I like threads started by beetles.

:D

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2005, 04:53:53 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I like threads started by goats better than I like threads started by beetles.

:D


three duces and a four speed, and a 389
wawa...wawawawawawa

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2005, 05:21:15 PM »
Hell Weas
 I think John and Jim were even responsible for that song.

 Marketing genius.

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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2005, 05:28:16 PM »
Only the odd couple of words to Add

Astin Martin
Bently
TVR


That'll do for now. Thats what Brits know about Muscle Cars! Oh and the land speed record. Mach1 Speed of sound.  pretty bloody muscley that Noble Thrust2

:lol :D

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2005, 05:35:01 PM »
Drove this to work today


NUTTZ
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2005, 05:37:37 PM »
Broken link Nuts, but I know what it is I bet.

Edit, link works now. Nice car man. I hope druel doesnt kill keyboards lol.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2005, 05:41:18 PM »
"Astin Martin
Bently
TVR"

None of those companies, make or has ever made a musclecar, they may be fast, but they are not musclecars.

Plus TVR produces some of the ugliest piles of crap on 4 wheels.

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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2005, 05:50:18 PM »
There is only one country in the world you could have gotten a "musclecar".  The term and the vehicles it applied to is 100% American.  It was created and defined here, in the U.S.A.

Dunt futz with me on this one.  I grew up in that era. :)
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2005, 05:50:21 PM »
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder indeed.

Of course GtoRa your real agenda is anything not american is rubbish. But I know that so I'll let it go.

Skuzzy you are probably right it is an American term.

I do agree that is a nice car NUTTZ.:cool:

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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2005, 06:50:16 PM »
No, I like many things not american, but thanks for showing us how much of a hypocrit you are again.