Author Topic: Adding seats to the UN security council (Read 697 times)

Goth · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:43:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Momus--
70% of Americans surveyed by the BBC supported the Secretary General's proposals.

Linky

I wonder if all calls to Americans polled were in California. Call the south and you would get the reverse, 70% want to disolve the UN (course I have no hard data on that).

Sikboy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:57:21 PM »

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Originally posted by OIO
The UN fails because there IS a power to veto. Plain and simple.

I dissagree with this. The Veto is only used for Security Council resolutions, yet the General Assembly, where there is no veto, is equally ineffective.

If you want to try and find a single reason I would suggest: The UN Fails because none of its resolutions are binding upon anyone.

The UN serves as a big room for people to talk. But I think that's it. You get to say what you want, but nobody has to give a ****.
In that sense, I think it's a good tool to have. But it doesn't create international law, which is what some people seem to think that it should do.

-Sik

Krusher · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:12:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Sikboy
If you want to try and find a single reason I would suggest: The UN Fails because none of its resolutions are binding upon anyone.

-Sik

And making them binding would be almost impossible.

OIO · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2005, 07:19:01 PM »

Kofi Annan says:

"What's needed now is not more declarations or promises, but action," Annan said. "I believe my report provides a clear program of action."

US and GB say:

"Well... DUH!"

Momus-- · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2005, 03:08:00 AM »

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Originally posted by genozaur
And how many of those surveyed Americans work in the U.N. building ?

P.S. Big BS

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Originally posted by Goth
I wonder if all calls to Americans polled were in California. Call the south and you would get the reverse, 70% want to disolve the UN (course I have no hard data on that).

Did either of you intellectual heavyweights refer to the actual study before posting, or did you just fall back on the easiest rationalisation you could come up with for rejecting a result that conflicts with your preconceptions?

Link to the actual poll results.

USA :1000 people surveyed between November 17th and December 12th 2004. Type of sample : Nationwide.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2005, 04:39:49 AM »

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But in any case I have to refresh my German.
Zieg heil to every body, uncluding the U.N.

Sovjetski sojuz comerade.

Goth · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2005, 06:22:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Momus--
Did either of you intellectual heavyweights refer to the actual study before posting, or did you just fall back on the easiest rationalisation you could come up with for rejecting a result that conflicts with your preconceptions?

Link to the actual poll results.

USA :1000 people surveyed between November 17th and December 12th 2004. Type of sample : Nationwide.

I read it and then did a poll at work. Out of 65 people polled, all 65 agree the UN is useless and you're a troll.

Goth · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2005, 07:26:08 AM »

GScholz, put the knee pads away and step back. No one, especially the pollers, asked for Norwegian input. Go back to building cruise liners.

Momus-- · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2005, 07:52:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Goth
I read it and then did a poll at work. Out of 65 people polled, all 65 agree the UN is useless and you're a troll.

If you had read the report before posting, then you would have known that the poll used a nationwide sample. Is pointing that out trolling as well?

65 people in your workplace? That must be a big McDonalds.

weaselsan · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2005, 08:10:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Momus--
70% of Americans surveyed by the BBC supported the Secretary General's proposals.

Linky

70% of Americans could't find Europe on a map...besides, what does that have to do with the fact that the UN is irrelevant?

TexMurphy · « **Reply #25 on:** March 22, 2005, 08:12:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Goth
I wonder if all calls to Americans polled were in California. Call the south and you would get the reverse, 70% want to disolve the UN (course I have no hard data on that).

http://www.sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm

lazs2 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2005, 09:16:09 AM »

moving the U.N to finland seems like a workable solution.

lazs

Toad · « **Reply #27 on:** March 22, 2005, 09:21:06 AM »

Nah.......... Paris is the place.

Where better to linger over cafe and croissant, discussing the news and world politics, deploring the sad state of many oppressed nations and........... while away the day doing nothing?

Lazerus · « **Reply #28 on:** March 22, 2005, 01:31:04 PM »

"Little Eichmanns"

Sikboy · « **Reply #29 on:** March 22, 2005, 02:32:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Momus--

65 people in your workplace? That must be a big McDonalds.

Without taking sides in the pissing contest.... That was funny.

-Sik