Gaddafi calls Israelis, Palestinians idiots

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Originally posted by bozon
You got to be kidding, right? thanks-for-coming?  

 

I guess you didn't notice the massive pro-Syria demonstrations in Lebanon recently?

[Skydancer]

Ah these will have been like the massive Pro Stalin demonstrations, or pro Honnecker demonstrations, or pro Saddam demonstrations then?

Demonstrate in support of us or the nice men from the security ministry will be calling.

[Shuckins]

Another god-son of that amusing Arab fascist leader, the Grand Mufti, Haj Muhammad Amin al Husseini, has spoken.

Be still my heart.

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Nashwan
They do.

They are the native inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza strip.

You might have some objection to the name, but that is how the rest of the world defines them.



No, you'll find the Romans called the area that (or something very close to it), as did the ancient Greeks. You'll also find Mark Twain calling the area Palestine in his writings on the first Zionist conference in 1897.



Notably being in Phillistine hands, which is probably the origin of the name "Palestine".



Well, Gaza is unlikely to be occupied after this summer, as to the West Bank, time will tell.



Ghaddafi's been touting this idea (he calls it "Israstine") for a few years now.

It's barking mad.

The one thing both the Israelis and Palestinians agree on is they need 2 states, not 1. (Indeed, it's the fear of ending up in a single state with the Palestinians that has kept Israel from annexing the territories it occupies)

ROTFLMAO...God gave the land to Israel....Mark Twain gave it to the Arabs.

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by GScholz
If you had the mental fortitude to read a little history you’d notice that Gaddafi bombed the PanAm flight over Lockerbie two years after Reagan bombed his family in 1984. You must enjoy being ignorant ... you’re so good at it.

He's not talking about lockerbie..he's talking about that little cafe' incident...didn't you notice the deer in the headlights look on the morons face after Ronnie put a boot up his ass.

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Nashwan
They do.

They are the native inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza strip.

You might have some objection to the name, but that is how the rest of the world defines them.



No, you'll find the Romans called the area that (or something very close to it), as did the ancient Greeks. You'll also find Mark Twain calling the area Palestine in his writings on the first Zionist conference in 1897.



Notably being in Phillistine hands, which is probably the origin of the name "Palestine".



Well, Gaza is unlikely to be occupied after this summer, as to the West Bank, time will tell.



Ghaddafi's been touting this idea (he calls it "Israstine") for a few years now.

It's barking mad.

The one thing both the Israelis and Palestinians agree on is they need 2 states, not 1. (Indeed, it's the fear of ending up in a single state with the Palestinians that has kept Israel from annexing the territories it occupies)

Dude learn something...it may shock you, but truth sometimes does that.

The name Palestine refers to a region of the eastern Mediterranean coast from the sea to the Jordan valley and from the southern Negev desert to the Galilee lake region in the north. The word itself derives from "Plesheth", a name that appears frequently in the Bible and has come into English as "Philistine". Plesheth, (root palash) was a general term meaning rolling or migratory. This referred to the Philistine's invasion and conquest of the coast from the sea. The Philistines were not Arabs nor even Semites, they were most closely related to the Greeks originating from Asia Minor and Greek localities. They did not speak Arabic. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs.

One other thing. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Roman "Palaestina". The British chose to call the land they mandated Palestine, and the Arabs picked it up as their nation's supposed ancient name, though they couldn't even pronounce it correctly and turned it into Falastin a fictional entity.

So remember if Mark Twain once called your country "Slobovia"
you are occupiers of the land of Slobovia, and Slobovian cohorts of Suicide bombers will kill your women and children....It makes as much sense.

[Nashwan]

"Dude", that's stuff I already knew.

It's you who's playing games wih the name "Palestinian", not me.

The Palestinians are a pretty well defined group of people, there's no need to try to find a new name for them just because you don't like the connotations provided by the existing name.

The area has been called "Palestine" or something similar, off and on, since before the Romans.

None of which, of course, has much bearing on the people who live there now. (Did your counry have the same name 2000 years ago? Was the largest ethnic group then the same as it is now? The answer's no to both for the vast majority of people on this board)

[Nashwan]

So remember if Mark Twain once called your country "Slobovia"
you are occupiers of the land of Slobovia, and Slobovian cohorts of Suicide bombers will kill your women and children....It makes as much sense.

Sorry, nothing about that paragraph makes any sense to me whatsoever.

Mark Twain was supporting the Zionist plan to create a Jewish state. I merely pointed out that in talking about the plan, he used the term "Palestine" to refer to the area where the state would be set up, despite you claiming the word was not invented until some years later by a British general.

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Nashwan
"Dude", that's stuff I already knew.

It's you who's playing games wih the name "Palestinian", not me.

The Palestinians are a pretty well defined group of people, there's no need to try to find a new name for them just because you don't like the connotations provided by the existing name.

The area has been called "Palestine" or something similar, off and on, since before the Romans.

None of which, of course, has much bearing on the people who live there now. (Did your counry have the same name 2000 years ago? Was the largest ethnic group then the same as it is now? The answer's no to both for the vast majority of people on this board)

The people who live there now are JEWS. Did you understand the point that ARABS have never had a HOMELAND called Palistine. Since you are so well versed on the Definition of a PALISTINIAN. Suppose you enlighten me on who they are. Tell me about the History of the Palistinians as a people. Are they Arabs, Jews, Muslims, Christians, Atheists. Tell me about the History of their homeland and how the Zionist came to occupy it.

Here is the latest Palistinian map by the phony Palistinians, This is of course to insure peace....notice that Israel doesn't exist on the Map. Thats strange it does on mine. Incidently maps like this are all over the web. This is the official (If you can call it that) Palistinian version. Notice the official seal or what ever it is in the lower left hand corner. There are hundreds more maps showing that Israel doesn't exist in all countries all over the world. Now would you like a History lesson on the History of Jews in that area.




This is from a Canadian website

[Nashwan]

The people who live there now are JEWS.

Some of them are.

There are also large numbers of Muslim Arabs, smaller numbers of Christian Arabs, Druze, Bedouin etc, as well as small numbers of people representing just about every ethnicitiy/nationality in the world (there are for example about 30,000 guest workers from Thailand in Israel at any one time)

I think the total figures within Israel/Gaza/West Bank are about 55% Jews/45% Arabs, excluding the other races/religions. (Studies range from 60% Jews/40% Arabs to a 50/50 split)

Did you understand the point that ARABS have never had a HOMELAND called Palistine.

They have. Many of them were born in a country called "Pallestine" which was under British control for about 30 years.

I think the point you are trying to make is the old one that there has never been an independent country called Palestine, which is of course true. (Why people go to such lengths to make it is another reason, that's beyond me)

Since you are so well versed on the Definition of a PALISTINIAN. Suppose you enlighten me on who they are.

Type it in to Google. Dictionary.com gives a good definition:
palestinian

adj : of or relating to the area of Palestine and its inhabitants;

What more do you want?

Palestinian is the name usually given to those natives of mandate-era Palestine and their descendents who have not recieved Israeli citizenship.

Tell me about the History of the Palistinians as a people. Are they Arabs, Jews, Muslims, Christians, Atheists.

I should think they could be any of those. Any qualifying as Jews under Israel's laws and living in the area would of course be Israeli citizens, and Israelis are not usually refered to as Palestinians, being called just Israelis (or sometimes Israeli Arabs if they are of Arab descent)

Most are Muslim, with fairly large numbers of Christians making most of the rest.

[weaselsan]

Palestinian is the name usually given to those natives of mandate-era Palestine and their descendents who have not recieved Israeli citizenship.

Look at the official Palistinian map, thats not their definition. They claim all of Israel as Palistine.


should think they could be any of those. Any qualifying as Jews under Israel's laws and living in the area would of course be Israeli citizens, and Israelis are not usually refered to as Palestinians, being called just Israelis (or sometimes Israeli Arabs if they are of Arab descent)

Look at map 2 a Canadian website...seems they can't find Israel on the map either.

But maybe you have not been aware of the fact that the reason that there is conflict in that region is mainly because they don't have a map that shows Israel. These are the maps that they use to educate their children today. It doesn't correspond to any map of the past either. Even the British mandate.

[wombatt]

Originally posted by GScholz
If you had the mental fortitude to read a little history you’d notice that Gaddafi bombed the PanAm flight over Lockerbie two years after Reagan bombed his family in 1984. You must enjoy being ignorant ... you’re so good at it.

Jump the gun there abit Mr Wizard?