Petition for Night, weather, wind

[hitech]

DaddyAck: Your last post Is a very valid view point.I happen do disagree with it, but that is a mater of choice.

It is just that when people use the we should have it because it is realistic  argument, it tends to get under my skin. Because they are using a completly invalid debating method.

I'm for realism if it adds value to the experience.

My viewpoint has always been like rabbidrabits. So the real discusion is not debating if everyone wants realism. Because everone does. The debate is simply does it add value.

HiTech

[DaddyAck]

Sir,

     Once more I mean no ill betwix you and I ;However, I must poin out that I have been misconstrued as "debateing".  I do not wish to debate the issue, esentially it is a mute point.  You controll the game we are merely the players whoom by choice play your masturfully rendered flight sim.  Therefore, if you want night you will add it, to the contrary if you do not the AH2 world will remain one of eternal sunshine.  I was merely creating a petition to see if you would entertain my request, and to see how many would like myself, want to see the return of atleast on hour of night time.

Respectfully Yours,
                       DaddyAck

[1redrum]

we know that the constant crying is why the night is gone ,i enjoyed night ops gave the game a different twist real or not who gives a ****! it just breaks up the monotany of clear sunny skys ALL the time could change the tempo of the game ,itruly miss it i know my opinion means nothing ,,,,but i do not hold this against HT as he is running a bussness,,it must make profit,i personaly would not want to have to find the balance between playability and "real" because whatever u do someone {or someohundreds}will not be happy,
bottom line ,i liked night and would like to see it come back,

ht i think u doing good at the balance of playable VS realistic
besides we are all doltz anyway u'll still get our 15bucks

My viewpoint has always been like rabbidrabits. So the real discusion is not debating if everyone wants realism. Because everone does. The debate is simply does it add value.

that depends on who u ask ,ask me ,ya it dose

[hitech]

DaddyAck: I normaly use the term discus and debate equaly.

[DaddyAck]

Sir,

    I unterstand the two terms could be equally misconstrued ;however, I as I have said earlier.I like the night time and I am simply asking you to consider it's re-instatemen, if but only for one hour (game time not real time).  That would be a nice concession, and strike a reasonable compramise for those that like perpetual day. Please atleat consider it.

Humbly yours,
                  DaddyAck

[Skydancer]

This subject crops up too often for it not to be a legimitimate request surely?

hitech is there a tech reason why we don't have night or those real weather fronts we used to have in AH1?

Be honest with us are there any plans to put night and weather back in the game?

Its good as it stands, but  it would be great with these things as they add a tactical element and immersion into the environment.

[rabbidrabbit]

Daddy,

That was why I suggested a rolling timeframe where the east side of the map is 8 or so hours ahead of the west.  This way we could have the changing environment while those who hate that could simply fight where there is good weather.  Not sure on implementation concerns though.

[lasersailor184]

The maps aren't big enough.  The sun doesn't rise and set on other sides of Pennsylvania.

[rabbidrabbit]

we are not talking that big of a time shift, just enough to let it be night and light on the same map.  I would think any of the large maps would be able to handle that pretty well.

[TexMurphy]

HT.

For me personally weather effects and night would add value. Just as search lights from towns, fields, ects would in night.

What is that value?

The elements of nature add to the tactical component of gameplay, for me. I say for me because I love to use terrain and everything available to me in games where tactics play a part. I know alot of people dont.

Also note that rain, snow and what ever unpleasent flying condition weather might add it would obviously not add it to the entire map but rather as fronts that pass over the map.

In this case it could shut down a field for flight ops as it passes (short period of time), yes. But it would also expose it to GV ops, so battle would not end at this base due to weather just change forms. Reading the weather fronts would allow for use of tactics.

That is how I see weather working and what value it would add to my game play.

Note Im only talking about my gameplay as I dont know many people enough to be able to speak for any larger group then my self.

Tex

[Howitzer]

Originally posted by DaddyAck
Sir,

    I unterstand the two terms could be equally misconstrued ;however, I as I have said earlier.I like the night time and I am simply asking you to consider it's re-instatemen, if but only for one hour (game time not real time).  That would be a nice concession, and strike a reasonable compramise for those that like perpetual day. Please atleat consider it.

Humbly yours,
                  DaddyAck

I think what HiTech is saying is he doesn't see the benefit... so no.  =)   I really can't say that I blame him, when we had nighttime, there was at least one thread a week bashing it, just like the pizza map, and I don't see that terror around anymore either.  I'm not trying to argue with you here, just saying there are masses that aren't for it.

[DaddyAck]

HiTech,

       I apologise If I have been misconstrued as a malcontent.  I believe your product to be a highly enjoyable fusion of reality and playability.  So I give vredit where it is due, Kudos to you ant your staff.

     However, I do ask that you take our (the people whoom want weather and night) requests as seriously as those that got night removed.  I am sure that there is a logical solution to the current quandry through compramise.
 
     I as well as others have had the idea of a shortened night time, we would be happy with even one hour by the game clock.  In this way those that like night have their oppertunity and those whoom do not would actually have the bulk of the main arena game clock.

      Weather paterns, would be all be it harder to program ;however, as Tex has stated above there is a was to do it in which not all bases on the map are affected by the same weather at the same time.   That aproach leaves the bulk of bases un touched by the precipitation.  To a furtur extent of clearification, we the seekers of weater are not so much wanting massive storms the violently rock the whole arena.  What we seek is more along the lines of rains and ocasional snow or thunder showers perhaps ocasionally fog.  I would not say that the tornados and hurricanes and blizzards are nesacary, due to balanceing the fun for tose that like the weather and those whoon do not.  Weather that esentially grounds all flights is not what we are after.

       I apreciate your time and consideration in these matters.  Once again Kudos on your current product.  Please do not mistake my request for a complaint, I am meerely requesting that you at least hear me out and consider it.   Thatnk you agin for you time.

Respectfully yours,
                        DaddAck

[Pooface]

Originally posted by DaddyAck
I think all of that would add infinate amusement to the game,  It would be nice to see some more stratagy and actual combat instead of steady streams of lalas and nikies that swarm the map bragging about how they can vulch an easy kill in perfect sunny unclouded weather   Oh yes the squeals indeed

i think ure right, i would LOVE to see AH more realistic, but also to see a change in the territory control and capture. it would be more fun i think to fly missions and stuff from less generic fields, and also to change the way m3's can just pop along and capture a base. i guess what im tryin to say is, that maybe we shouldnt be able to capture individual bases, but change it so that territory is gained with land, and bases in ure land are yours no matter what. i dunno, i just dont like the whole, lets go capture a43 and stuff....

i hope someone sees where im coming from:)

[maxxius]

WE WANT NIGHT BACK!!!!!

GO DADDY GO:D

[Howitzer]

Originally posted by Pooface
i think ure right, i would LOVE to see AH more realistic, but also to see a change in the territory control and capture. it would be more fun i think to fly missions and stuff from less generic fields, and also to change the way m3's can just pop along and capture a base. i guess what im tryin to say is, that maybe we shouldnt be able to capture individual bases, but change it so that territory is gained with land, and bases in ure land are yours no matter what. i dunno, i just dont like the whole, lets go capture a43 and stuff....

i hope someone sees where im coming from:)

So, if bases are yours no matter what, then how do we actually capture this "territory"?  You capture enough bases, you move the front lines ahead, that would represent the territory you speak of wouldn't it?

I'm not getting the thing about the m3 though.  They carry 10 troops like the c47.  The town has to be completely down in order for the m3 to get in.  If you notice the M3 and the C47 have the least amount of firepower of any model in their respective classes.  So I guess I'm not understanding what is unfair about this?   Please elaborate.