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Offline Nath_____

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FW190 Front views?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2005, 01:52:00 PM »
wtf 1st time ive seen that HTC has not considered altering proven faults

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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2005, 02:01:16 PM »
It was altered greatly between this post and final release.


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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2005, 02:34:02 PM »
whats really kikazzz..is we have theses guys here who will post very good details of what things should look like..run liek ect...


I wish all of you gusy coudl post what I work on a daily basis..Nothn as good as having dozens of folks proof-reading for you..i think thats  sweeet

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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2005, 03:46:46 PM »
Hitech, yes the framework was altered but the frame is still to massive.
I just tried to merge a screenshot of the new D9 cockpit with the picture of the real one here, but couldn't get it right using paint. Sadly i have no other graphics tool around i could use, maybe someone else can do it.

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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2005, 06:20:18 PM »
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It was altered greatly between this post and final release.


HiTech


Sorry for jumping the gun HT, I should have said if it hasnt been changed it wont be.

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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2005, 02:02:01 PM »
FW190 was considered by all to have the best visibility from the cockpit of all prop driven LW fighters.

I've been in a D9 cockpit and the frontal vision wasn't as impaired as the 190s vision is in this version.  The framework of the front glass isn't as wide.  Probably hard to model graphically....but in RL the frontal glass frame wasn't as obtrusive.

The layout of the gauges is great......the design is also very very good.  Just need some tinkering with the frontal view.

Also....when looking left or right over the wings.......the leading edge front tips appear to make the wing backwards.  Navigation lights?
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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2005, 01:39:21 AM »
The main problem here might be that we still only have a 2D screen that has to represent a 3D enviroment.

In reality the fact that a human has two eyes which are about 4 inches apart, will counteract even broad framework. My cars frontal window frame is around 3-4 inches thick but is no hindrance at all.

btw Hajo, where were you able to sit in a D9 cockpit? Wright Patterson?
« Last Edit: April 14, 2005, 01:45:19 AM by Naudet »

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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2005, 04:34:09 PM »
Sighting view according to the RAE:



Search View:



All the best,

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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2005, 06:04:30 PM »
Does the plane fly nose down in AHII?
Amazing that it comments so faveroubly about what is one of the biggest weaknesses of the forward view as implimented. The amount of view below the center of the reticle.

Hard to understand what it means about AOT in relation to Target speed. Are they saying that you could dive at a 400 mph target with only a shallow dive angle but against a 200 mph target you could dive with a 60 degree angle? Is that becuase of how far you would have to lead the target at those speeds and yet still keep a sight picture? interesting.

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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2005, 04:21:40 AM »
AH's D9 flies at nose down attitude, i have checked that from the external view.

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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2005, 09:28:52 AM »
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AH's D9 flies at nose down attitude, i have checked that from the external view.


Naudet, what your should check is what over the nose visibility you have WITHIN the cockpit and without raising your head relative to the gunsight.

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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2005, 09:36:09 AM »
Is the refraction through the 50mm armour glass modelled? This raises the sighting view by over an inch.

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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2005, 09:48:56 AM »
No glass is modelled in any of the planes Milo.

 However, since AH head positions are customizable, it's not as much a serious problem as in IL2/FB. The framing is pretty heavy, but it's still about ten times more easier to see around than compared to IL2/FB.

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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2005, 10:01:18 AM »
Kweassa,

don't get me started on the Maddox 190. :D

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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2005, 10:06:51 AM »
"You is wrong", eh? :D