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Offline indy007

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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2005, 01:33:07 PM »
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Setting the letter of the law, which we wrote without intending these consequences, above simple preservation of life, is an extremely dangerous precedent. [/B]


Then the people need to change the law. By the people, for the people... right?

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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2005, 02:00:17 PM »
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It's been pointed out that doing to a dog what was done to Shiavo would result in jail time,


Its also been pointed out that a dog is more consciously aware and can feed itself unless its chained up in a cage.
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2005, 02:05:55 PM »
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RIP ...geez, he threw the parents out in her final moments.

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Probably because they would have made up some crap about her screaming bloody murder as she died and that she was in horrible, horrible pain.

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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2005, 02:08:32 PM »
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It's been pointed out that doing to a dog what was done to Shiavo would result in jail time,
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Its also been pointed out that a dog is more consciously aware and can feed itself unless its chained up in a cage.
-SW


A dog would have been euthanized long before a PVS and feeding tube was at issue.

I hope that the parties to this family tragedy can somehow put this behind them now.
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2005, 02:08:41 PM »
Without wriiten proof of her wishes..because the so called conversations with her on the subject are just hearsay..No Husband, Family member, court, Government, or President has the right to order your death if you are not guilty of a crime...there is no "right to die"...I know I'll get flak for it..but there is only one person/enitity that can decide that. Maybe she wanted to die...maybe she is better off..we will never know but alot of people beleive that it's not your choice to decide how/when you go. Luckily for her soul she was executed by the government, so in the eyes of that entity she didn't commit suicide.
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2005, 02:11:15 PM »
Wow.  Even after her death and even after I've been over it no less then 5 times, you idiots still think she was a vegetable.
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2005, 02:12:55 PM »
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Wow.  Even after her death and even after I've been over it no less then 5 times, you idiots still think she was a vegetable.


We'll see what the autopsy has to say about that.

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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2005, 02:13:58 PM »
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What if the Governor had directed the state police to take custody of Shiavo for her own protection, making her a ward of the state?  If a state child protection agency can take children from their home due to abuse, can't a government agency take an incompetent person into protective custody?



They tried exactly that.  The local cops faced down the state cops and told them not to come back without a judge.

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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2005, 02:15:27 PM »
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They tried exactly that.  The local cops faced down the state cops and told them not to come back without a judge.


Yeah the good Germans just doing their jobs..they aren't REALLY Nazis at heart:rolleyes:
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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2005, 02:23:23 PM »
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Wow.  Even after her death and even after I've been over it no less then 5 times, you idiots still think she was a vegetable.


Her basic primal functions worked, there was no higher functions at play. For all intents and purposes, she was a vegetable.
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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2005, 03:31:20 PM »
Could you imagine if she was concious the whole 15 years, but just couldn't make anyone aware that she was. What kind of torture would that be. She should have been taken off life support after 1-2 years at the most.

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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2005, 05:38:26 PM »
I believe it was quite a chore to get her off life support.  Once your on, your on for life.  That's the story the hospital gave us when my father was possibly going to be put on life support.  

The whole story all revolved around money.  Such a shame the lady could not have died with some dignity.  


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Malta

p.s. Unfortunately, I am becoming more and more disappointed with President Bush and the Republican party.  If only the Democrats would stop being the "Liberal- baby killing, gun grabbing, queer marrying" party I believe we could get more balance in the US.  There was a time when the Democratic party was focused on representing the working class.  What working class person can afford to be liberal?

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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2005, 08:03:04 PM »
Indeed may she now find some peace.
RIP.


PS Airhead.
You showed some class with this post sir
But be afraid very afraid LOL I am starting to like you.

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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2005, 08:50:41 PM »
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RIP ...geez, he threw the parents out in her final moments.

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Really?  

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/03/31/schiavo-lawyer.html

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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2005, 09:11:11 PM »
No, a person described as a vegetable just lies there like a vegetable would.  They are alive but have NO brain functions.


Terry had brain functions, but no higher brain functions due to brain damage.  She was anything but a vegetable.




But keep justifying her murder if it makes you sleep better at night.
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