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Offline Staga

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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2005, 06:46:09 PM »
Wombatt; As a 5n1p3r You should know the difference between shooting someone in combat or killing a wounded POW.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2005, 06:47:01 PM »
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After prompting from Capt. Will Helixon, Maynulet's chief defense lawyer, Cassady admitted his lies stemmed from his guilt at not treating the man and for causing the chain of events that led to the man's death.


To me....I see this as just a bad deal all the way around.  Both here made HUGE mistakes and the officer gets fried for it.

I still don't think that capt. acted in malice but that's irellivent.  Reguardless the army is losing what sounds like a good Officer.

and the medic get's imunity from 27 counts of art. 107 for his testimony
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2005, 06:51:43 PM »
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Wombatt; As a 5n1p3r You should know the difference between shooting someone in combat or killing a wounded POW.



LOL look how can you expect a man to make the determination
on weather to fire again.
It just seems silly to me that your trained to kill and then put in place to do just that.

And just because you did not get him with the first shots you can't finnish him off?

I really doubt the the insurgents are playing by these rules.
This i am afraid is a serious kick in da nutt's for morale.
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2005, 06:54:07 PM »
Bottom line is that officer, even if he sounds like a decent man, committed a crime even if the intention was good.
His sentence already dropped from 20y to 10y; don't know how the parole works in US Army or in USA.
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2005, 06:55:53 PM »
Ever since Vietnam the Bleeding- heart liberals have force some really Ghey rules of engagements on us in the military..one being once a person is no longer perceived as a threat..you don't shoot them anymore...with that in mind..A hostile can make a run at you..as soon as he turns around to leave..you cannot fire anymore..so he gets out of range..regroups and attacks again...great rule if you are the enemy...sux for us.
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2005, 07:03:06 PM »
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Ever since Vietnam the Bleed heart liberals have force some really Ghey rules of engagements on us in the military..one being once a person is no longer perceived as a threat..you don't shoot them anymore...with that in mind..A hostile can make a run at you..as soon as he turns around to leave..you cannot fire anymore..so he gets out of range..regroups and attacks again...great rule if you are the enemy...sux for us.


Or fires on you then imediatly surrenders after killing a bunch of your men.
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2005, 07:05:51 PM »
Political correctness as no place on the battle field.
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2005, 07:06:52 PM »
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Political correctness as no place on the battle field.


Neither do most of our "Rukes"

It's like us saying "I'll fight you with one hand tied behind my back"
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2005, 07:16:42 PM »
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So if I see someone dying it's OK to for me to put a bullet into his brains?

Okay.


should have just said he was in a coma and starved him to death.
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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2005, 07:29:56 PM »
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should have just said he was in a coma and starved him to death.


Watch that...See the thread about the pope..I said something along the same lines..hate to see someone else get in trouble.
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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2005, 08:12:30 PM »
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It would be wrong to punish this man for being humane. His medic on the other hand...


Never thaught I would say this but here goes:

I couldnt agree with you more.
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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2005, 08:36:53 PM »
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It would be wrong to punish this man for being humane. His medic on the other hand...


geez.....I agree too! :D
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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2005, 09:09:11 PM »
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Or fires on you then imediatly surrenders after killing a bunch of your men.


The Germans during WW2 regularly fired all their ammunition, and once exhausted surrender to the allied soldiers they were shooting at on the western front...not exactly a new tactic..

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It would be wrong to punish this man for being humane. His medic on the other hand...


Either way its just a sad case all round, for both soldier and victim...

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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2005, 09:24:28 PM »
Unfortunate that they have to dump this on the commander.  Medic really had a brain fart on this one.
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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2005, 01:38:10 AM »
Before being deployed to Iraq, soldiers are trained in proper military procedure and provided with rules of engagement cards they are required to carry. Among other things, the rules forbid soldiers from killing to ease suffering, said Sgt. Robert Braudis, who also was on the mission.

If that's true.  Done, guilty, cya.
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