Author Topic: WMD report (Read 1045 times)

Nash · « **Reply #30 on:** April 02, 2005, 04:15:50 AM »

yeah.

Elfie · « **Reply #31 on:** April 02, 2005, 04:17:34 AM »

You lost me Nash, this one went right over my head heh

Nash · « **Reply #32 on:** April 02, 2005, 04:19:56 AM »

Well it's a good start, anyway.

Elfie · « **Reply #33 on:** April 02, 2005, 04:21:37 AM »

I'm going to bed Nash, I have no clue what you are talking about

Nash · « **Reply #34 on:** April 02, 2005, 04:22:36 AM »

Sweet dreams!

Lazerus · « **Reply #35 on:** April 02, 2005, 04:34:55 AM »

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The media took one part of the reason for the overthrow of the Iraqi government and I'm going to stick to that one issue because it was the one issue that can't be proven even though most of the governments of the world agreed with it and I think it's the best way to argue my point without looking at what was going on because I cant fault any of the other reasons and i know im right because i just am and no one is going to tell me different because that was the reason and it was wrong and now theres a commision that says it was wrong and that proves im right and theres no reason for me to look at any of the other reasons because that was the one that the news kept telling me it was for and i think it was just...........bad

Yeager · « **Reply #36 on:** April 02, 2005, 05:10:39 AM »

Liberating Iraq was the correct thing to do, imo.

Nash · « **Reply #37 on:** April 02, 2005, 05:43:17 AM »

Wow... what a jarring display of humbleness, Yeager.

"x=y, I reckon."

I mean, you have said exactly as much, countless times, but... never quite like that.

"Liberating Iraq was the correct thing to do, imo."

As if this thread needed (unlike the countless others that, say, preceded the actual war in which you spewed absolute ****) your tender touch... and/or a change of approach.

"Liberating Iraq was the correct thing to do, imo."

Right.

And how shrecking trite. Almost compels one to say "Gee."

Just wonderfully refreshing.

I can't make up my mind... which is better? The old obnoxious Yeager or the new ghey one.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #38 on:** April 02, 2005, 05:55:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
who cares

Iraq was the right move at the right time, and the majority realizes it as they expressed last Nov

You may be right eagler, but if the religous fanatics who won the election in iraq do come to power, arent we right back in the same boat? The m ajority rules in iraq is the same religous freaks that we are attempting to pick a fight with in iran? What the hell sense does this make?
In my paranoid fantasy land, I would have bet the farm that our main objective was to establish a permanat military presence in the middle east. In a 'best case scenario' right atop the worlds 2nd largest known oil field which exists in iraq.
In my wildest dilusions, i would have never thought we were actually dumb enough to spend nearly half a trillion dollars on a war to establish a TRUE fricken democracy in a land that hates western culture to the very core! Who do you think is going to win the gaddamm elections?!

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #39 on:** April 02, 2005, 05:59:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
The assumption here is that everyone voted based on this issue alone, which is of course incorrect. There were many reason why people voted for or against Bush, or hey didn't even vote at all.

And just because the majority of a given group of people thinks something is correct, doesn't make it so. I mean hey, most Germans agree with Hitler's policies, does that make them correct? Of course not.

Come to think of it, all these points are so elementry I real shouldn't have to explain them...oh wait, I'm responding to Eagler.

Amen. Bushs job approval rating at the start of his second term was lowere than any other re-elected president in history.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #40 on:** April 02, 2005, 06:02:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Liberating Iraq was the correct thing to do, imo.

Taking out saddam and his two sons was a moral thing to do as they were mean and evil, however, it was none of our Golly-geem business and we killed more civilians during the war then they could have ever dreamed of killing.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #41 on:** April 02, 2005, 06:08:12 AM »

Keep in mind, at the very same time we were gearing up for war in iraq, to go see if saddam had the can of mustard gas in the desert, kim il jung, by our own administrations admission, a mad man and a memeber of the 'axis of evil' nations, was standing high on a hill screaming thate HE HAD WMD"S and was GOING to use them on japan if we DIDNT MEET HIS DEMANDS. NUCLEAR BLACKMAIL is treated as ho-hum, let china handle it news to bush and his people. Strong evidince of ulterior motives for the war to 'liberate iraq' and 'protect the world'.
Hmmmm, maybe kim il jung isnt so stoopit after all.

Eagler · « **Reply #42 on:** April 02, 2005, 08:52:52 AM »

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Originally posted by SaburoS
No, it was wrong. Period.
It was based on lies and propaganda.
We had a choice to wait to see if in fact there were WMD's in existence but our administration pushed for the invasion anyway.
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how long were we to wait? 10+ years not long enough?

showed the world America still "walks the talk"
a free Iraq
military bases in the ME
Lybia
Israel annd Palestine
Syria and Lebanon
Iran
all reasons the invasion has worked, and will go down in history (not the short sighted hand wringing of today) as the best move America could have made at the time

and don't forget the 50cent a gallon gas - "no blood for oil" - yep, it was all about the oil
LOL

Thrawn · « **Reply #43 on:** April 02, 2005, 12:56:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
how long were we to wait? 10+ years not long enough?

showed the world America still "walks the talk"
a free Iraq

Oh wonderful reason for tens of thousands of Iraqis to die, because you think America has a self-confidence issue.

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military bases in the ME

Bush: "I want a base there."

Rumsfeld: "Well lets just lie about our reasons for doing so, invade and kill tens of thousands of Iraqis".

Bush: "Okey-dokey."

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Lybia

Has been trying to get closer to the west for almost two decades now.

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Israel annd Palestine

If any peace comes it will because Arrafat is dead and Abu Mazan and Sharon work out one, how the hell does the US invading Iraq have anything to do with that?

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Syria and Lebanon

Massive pro-Syrian rally in Lebannon just a week or two ago.

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Iran

This is true, Iran has unilaterally and fully stop researching nuclear weapons...oh wait no they haven't.

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all reasons the invasion has worked, and will go down in history (not the short sighted hand wringing of today) as the best move America could have made at the time

And black is white as well eh?

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and don't forget the 50cent a gallon gas - "no blood for oil" - yep, it was all about the oil
LOL [/B]

And white is black.

Yeah because the end purchaser is getting raped means that oil companies aren't making massive stupendous profits.

Elfie · « **Reply #44 on:** April 02, 2005, 01:33:35 PM »

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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
You may be right eagler, but if the religous fanatics who won the election in iraq do come to power, arent we right back in the same boat? The m ajority rules in iraq is the same religous freaks that we are attempting to pick a fight with in iran? What the hell sense does this make?
In my paranoid fantasy land, I would have bet the farm that our main objective was to establish a permanat military presence in the middle east. In a 'best case scenario' right atop the worlds 2nd largest known oil field which exists in iraq.
In my wildest dilusions, i would have never thought we were actually dumb enough to spend nearly half a trillion dollars on a war to establish a TRUE fricken democracy in a land that hates western culture to the very core! Who do you think is going to win the gaddamm elections?!

Those religious fanatics didnt win a 2/3 majority, more like 49% or so. They will have to forge a coalition with either the Sunni's to the south, or more likely with the Kurds to the north. The Shiites have already stated they will not try to impose Islamic religious laws.