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Offline bob149

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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2005, 03:29:50 AM »
didnt  the internally mounted m61 in the ptotype starfighter bring it down ?
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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2005, 03:33:52 AM »
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I think F-5 (in the 1960s-70s) is the best MiG killer the USAF did not use (back then, USAF said there's no need. "We'll pound em with missiles @ BVR range on our heavy pound for ground fighters)

Are we talking talking about the F-5A "Freedom Fighter" or the F-5E "Tiger II"? AFAIK the latter has much better performance and the "A" didn't even carry a radar.
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« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2005, 04:10:35 AM »
Thats correct Mora. The A model was optimized for the air to ground role. The E model was optimized for air superiority.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-5.htm

Pretty good read on the F-5.
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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2005, 04:37:04 AM »
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is F-5 the U.S. equivalent of the MiG-21?

btw those cannon fires sounds like fart! :D


The F-5's characteristics are very similar to the MiG-21. Thats why it was chosen to be the Aggressor aircraft for the USN and USAF.

I've never seen an M-61A1 fire irl, but I have seen them fired on video tapes, they sound like a buzz saw. :D

Rino your links arent working for me, but I suspect that I never worked on an F-4E that didnt have the modified shroud. The early F-4E's were most likely modified as well.
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« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2005, 10:03:19 AM »
A nice plane seen them as a kid alot here.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f5_22.html

http://www.cavok-aviation-photos.net/Twenthe.html




It just looks like a good dogfighter
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Offline Pongo

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« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2005, 10:36:46 AM »
Modern revolver cannons get a higher rate of fire for much less weapon weight then an M61.  Especially when you consider that even 2 30mm mounts can weigh less then the single m61 mount.

But the guns are unlikley to be able to sustain that rof and the guns themselves will not last as long as an m61.
Something has to give.

Since they can be fired on que from the avionics and fire 1/2 second bursts thier leathality vs an m61 is not even in the same ball park.

Its hard to imagine something signifigantly more leathal pound for pound then a 6000 rpm vulcan but such things do exist.

As to the 2 m39s in an F5.
I have seen both the F5 and the F18 live fire in real life.
And from 2 km away you can clearly see the slower spool up time of the M61.
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« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2005, 11:05:10 AM »
Wheres's tony?  The member that wrote that book on aircraft weapons....tony williams or something like that.

Someone go grab him, he knows all these answers.
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