Author Topic: How many of you would use Linux if you know it does all job you need (Read 1767 times)

Vulcan · « **Reply #45 on:** April 19, 2005, 04:26:33 PM »

[QUOUTE]Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
If that concerns you, check out this version.

[url]anti-spyware [/QUOTE]

All I could see was something about using Mozilla and Firefox to "resist most spyware"... not specific spyware. Point me to the right spot if I'm missing it.

edit: LOL looks like only 1 version has AV and its US$100, wierd!

Skuzzy · « **Reply #46 on:** April 19, 2005, 04:38:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
Errr No. The networking side is ok, its not safer or "stabler". The firewall is not complete . And the HTTP, Mail, and Database servers have security holes you could drive a bus through.

Ok Vulcan, I cannot let this one pass.

Are you talking about a 'default' configuration of the above? If so, then it would be dependent on the distro you use, but generally, the default configuration lacks a lot on the security side of Linux.
However, that is easily addressable by the user, unlike Windows, which normally requires MS act on it to fix it.

Back to Linux, or any UNIX variant for that matter.
HTTP: Server or client?
Mail: Server of client?
Database: MySQL is pretty damn secure and ships with several distros. The recent CERT advisory for MySQL had to do with admins not setting the MySQL root password or setting it to something trivial.

Most security problems with UNIX's can be traced back to a poor or sloppy job of configuring it. Not saying you are wrong Vulcan, but you were being rather general.

soda72 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 19, 2005, 04:46:23 PM »

LOL

Nothing like a good'ole Linux vs windows thread this could go on for days....

Skuzzy · « **Reply #48 on:** April 19, 2005, 04:47:48 PM »

I do not think Vulcan is pro-Windows. I think he is making an effort to let people know Linux is not a pancea for being lazy about security. And he is right about that.

g00b · « **Reply #49 on:** April 19, 2005, 04:54:31 PM »

I hope HTC is getting kickbacks from M$ for keeping us all entrenched in Windows.

Oh, you're not getting kickbacks? Can we get *nix port than please?

g00b

Skuzzy · « **Reply #50 on:** April 19, 2005, 04:58:31 PM »

No.

For several reasons.

1) There is no coherent support for hardware 3D acceleration for video or audio in Linux yet.
2) There is no consistent or easy way to use a HOTAS setup in Linux.
3) There is no consistent API for the installation of software for Linux.
4) It is less than 1% of the market.

You want game companies to provide Linux support? The day Dell, Compaq, HP, and others ship Linux as the default OS, then the game companies will follow.
What HTC or any game company does is irrelevant to the computer manufacturers. They have to move before software companies will.

soda72 · « **Reply #51 on:** April 19, 2005, 05:02:00 PM »

Does M$ give the operating system to those companies for free?

Skuzzy · « **Reply #52 on:** April 19, 2005, 05:03:28 PM »

Heck no and they still slather all over the hands of MS.

Linux is its own worst enemy. Without consistent API's and consistent support for all known types of hardware, it will never be mainstream.

g00b · « **Reply #53 on:** April 19, 2005, 05:13:28 PM »

Skuzzy,

Um, OPENGL?

Don't know about the sound or HOTAS stuff.

I think anyone running linux could install an AH binary or compile their own.

Ever consider utilizing the resources of your community? There might be some hot-sh*t programmers in here willing to write some of the necassary code for a lifetime subscription to AH.

But I totally and completely understand. It's a LOT of trouble for a CURRENTLY small market.

Notice I said currently. If you haven't noticed OSX and Linux are coming on strong and may actually be a viable gaming platform in, what, 5-10 years?

Funny how the modern desktop choice is dictated by which supports games better.

g00b

Skuzzy · « **Reply #54 on:** April 19, 2005, 05:17:46 PM »

g00b, you ever tried to install OpenGL on Slackware, RedHat, and pick another one. I promise you it is not easy and it is not consistent.
Heck they all use different directory hierarchies, and that is a serious problem getting in the way of being able to provide a clean, and consistent way to install and remove software.

We will never release the source to Aces High.

The desktop is not picked by what games will run on it. The desktop is there due to the OEM's support for it. The game companies will go where the numbers take us.

soda72 · « **Reply #55 on:** April 19, 2005, 05:19:58 PM »

I don't see why any developer for Linux would bother improving the API's unless it was necessary, they certainly aren't making any money writing the OS. I also don't understand why they would do all that work for free, Unless they just like the attention of being told it's a job well done....

indy007 · « **Reply #56 on:** April 19, 2005, 05:29:29 PM »

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Originally posted by soda72
I don't see why any developer for Linux would bother improving the API's unless it was necessary, they certainly aren't making any money writing the OS. I also don't understand why they would do all that work for free, Unless they just like the attention of being told it's a job well done....

Well not entirely. Alot of people write an app because they need it, it's a school project, or whatever. Then they're nice enough to throw it up on sourceforge or something similar. Hell, one of my favorite games is java based battletech (the board game), and it's freely distributed, is built around multiplayer, and has an online campaign playing population about 1/2 the size of AH.

g00b · « **Reply #57 on:** April 19, 2005, 05:29:44 PM »

I run gentoo for my home web/mail/firewall and traffic shaping. Installing openGL was quick and easy.

However, as I said earlier, you are entirely correct, it's a lot of work for a minimal return.

I recall hearing some success running AH1 under WINE? Has anyone tried with AH2? Maybe that could eventually be the "supported" linux port?

Just blabbin' away here. Thanks for the feedback Skuzzy, it's appreciated and respected. Join the MA once in a while so we can take a shot at ya

g00b

Nilsen · « **Reply #58 on:** April 19, 2005, 05:48:10 PM »

How about releasing to the mac platform Skuzzy? There is not much hardware that has to be supported compared to linux since apple makes it all and the number of users are growing. Add the fact that mac users are pretty starved on good games and maybe there is a market soon.

Vulcan · « **Reply #59 on:** April 19, 2005, 07:35:14 PM »

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Originally posted by soda72
Does M$ give the operating system to those companies for free?

Are the Linux O/S's with all the goodies mentioned above free?