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Offline Jackal1

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« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2005, 08:30:02 AM »
Eagler, send me a bag of that fish bait. :D
Democracy is two wolves deciding on what to eat. Freedom is a well armed sheep protesting the vote.
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« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2005, 10:12:46 AM »
If what you mean by 'junk science' is that scientists set out with the conclusion already in mind and then keep modifying the experimental methods or statistics until they get the results they or their sponsors desire, I'm afraid that may cover just about all scientific inquiry nowadays.   I'm not sure any truly independent and objective science is being done anymore.     And that is a shame.

Oil spills are not rare enough, IMO.  Whether they be due to  supertanker disaster, pipeline leaks, or offshore rig incidents.  I do not agree with the logic that just because Nature regularly destroys or spoils what we have created, that its OK if we are careless and create disasters ourselves.

I don't hate Bush.  Coupla things he's done I agree with - like requiring multistate class action lawsuits to be filed in federal court, or the tightening of bankruptcy law (as long as the means test included in it protects those who really need protecting).  But I have little respect for someone who orders troops into battle who wasn't willing to answer the call himself.   And when I look at his foreign policy and the impact of his economic policies on the middle and lower classes, and the size of his federal deficits, I think the possibility is very real that he will go down in history as the worst president this country has had in a long time, possibly ever.   I'm sure if I was a millionaire I would think quite differently about him.

But you're probably right - we are saving the animals of the planet from destruction in a raging fire by pumping the oil out of the ground ourselves.   That theory is almost as believeable as the instant Ice Age scenario in "The Day After Tomorrow".  
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Offline Kanawa

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« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2005, 04:20:50 PM »
Was also my B-day... :(
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Offline Torque

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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2005, 04:22:34 PM »
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Now i know where Swiss Chalet gets their greasy buzzard from.

Offline lazs2

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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2005, 08:50:35 AM »
well... one should allways try to avoid oil spills for a variety of reasons.

Nature doesn't avoid them tho.

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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2005, 08:55:58 AM »
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Indy, is it possible to be against globalization and not be a wacko?


Well, yeah. There's good arguements for and against it. I just think it's funny/stupid/crazy for somebody to be marching, chanting, and brandishing a slogan filled placard against globalization... at a protest that was organized using the tools of globalization (Internet, cell phones). I like it even more when activist groups have websites to give their voice a global reach.

I have no problem with anti-globalization views. They do have some merit. I simply ask that people stick by their beliefs and spread their opinion in a manner consistent with those beliefs. It's leading by poor example at it's best.

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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2005, 04:02:50 PM »
I have always looked down on protesters, esp. the civil disobedient ones.   True, there are alot of wackos out there.