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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2005, 03:50:59 AM »
Why do your politicians/lawmakers want to take these draconian steps? Do you mean to tell me that they don't buy the "more guns = less crime" argument? Say it isn't so! To read some of the posts on this board, one would think that argument was watertight. :aok

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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2005, 04:10:00 AM »
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Why do your politicians/lawmakers want to take these draconian steps?


they want to make everyone crooks, so they will have absolute corrupted power over all.

but it doesn't really matter.
 
one weapon, they will never be able to outlaw.
its the most devastating weapon, of all weapons.


think about it, maybe you'll figure out, what this weapon is. ;)

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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2005, 04:14:08 AM »
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one weapon, they will never be able to outlaw.
its the most devastating weapon, of all weapons.


think about it, maybe you'll figure out, what this weapon is. ;)
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2005, 04:35:31 AM »
by "they"' I mean any and all Governments on the planet, and off planet.



 freedom of speech, is not the answer.

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2005, 04:48:44 AM »
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Do you mean to tell me that they don't buy the "more guns = less crime" argument? Say it isn't so! To read some of the posts on this board, one would think that argument was watertight. :aok


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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2005, 06:55:33 AM »
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wow....some bad complaints to a good idea.  it's a 1/2 a cent per round.

It's better than gun control.  This is one of the best ideas I've heard of for curbing gun violence.


None of the bad guys are going to change their behavior. Few, if any, of them go to the local gun shop and plop down 650 bucks for a Colt and a box of laser etched ammo. I'm suprised you don't see the problem with this idea.  Gun laws only affect the legal gun owners. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2005, 06:59:31 AM »
:rofl at the people's republic of california what kind of morons elect these folks anyways.

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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2005, 06:59:44 AM »
This may be a silly question but......


Bullets (the actual bullets) get deformed when fired, right?  So the serial stamp is going to have to be on the shell casing.......and if the shell isn't ejected (ie 6 shooter) or the shooter stops to pick up his empty shell casings.......then how are they gonna identify this serial number?


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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2005, 07:16:49 AM »
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Of course this method will be perfectly well used to catch those WHO BUY ILLEGAL GUNS AND AMMUNITION. Because obviously, all the criminals will put the serial number on their guns and their bullets.


Do you think criminals make their own guns?

Remember, these are people who can't even hold down a job, in most cases. Initiative and industriousness do not characterise most drug addicts, gang members etc.

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None of the bad guys are going to change their behavior. Few, if any, of them go to the local gun shop and plop down 650 bucks for a Colt and a box of laser etched ammo. I'm suprised you don't see the problem with this idea. Gun laws only affect the legal gun owners.


Of course most of them won't buy a laser etched gun from a gun shop. Figures show less than 20% of criminals in the US get their guns that way.

What most of them do is steal the gun the law abiding citizen has bought, or buy it from someone else who stole it.

Whatever the law abiding buy, that's the type of gun criminals end up with, because that's where the criminals get their guns.

As to ammo, criminals again either steal it, or usually just buy it.

Make a law that requires serial numbers and it will feed through to the criminal guns in time.

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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2005, 07:30:27 AM »
wouldnt it be easier just to have on file in some computer database a sample fired round from every gun made/sold?

Then you could at least track the round down to the guns original owner
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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2005, 08:09:20 AM »
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What about those who cast and load their own rounds?


Just make possesion of one an act of terrorism, 25 to life should be about right.

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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2005, 08:19:57 AM »
well... gee... I have bullet molds for about 10 calibers right now and can make rounds out of wheel weights..    Are they gonna make bullet molds and reloading illegal?

yes beetle you are correct... democrats do not think that more guns equal less crime... like you... they are wrong. (you did notice that it was a know nothing about guns democrat that made the bill)

as for the bullet deforming the number.... sheesh... get a grip guys... do you think criminals will fire bullets that haven't had the numbers scraped off with a two second pass of a sharp pocketknife?  

and gunslinger... are you old enough to remember the last democrat passed ammo law that was gonna catch all these baby killers?   The law was that you had to show ID to purchase ammo and records were kept.... it lasted a decade or so and caught.... ta da.... ZERO bad guys.

The idea is to make it even harder for law abiding gun owners.  

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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2005, 08:43:47 AM »
That's an interesting topic in number theory.  Since billions of bullets are produced each year, how would you number them (i.e. what base number system would you use)?   Who keeps track of all that information?  

Sometimes its the simplest questions that provide show stoppers.  


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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2005, 08:54:02 AM »
beet said... "Why do your politicians/lawmakers want to take these draconian steps? Do you mean to tell me that they don't buy the "more guns = less crime" argument? Say it isn't so! To read some of the posts on this board, one would think that argument was watertight. "

Not only that beet but those self same democrats and women would now ban you from ever owning a firearm after your latest unfortunate incident.  So really.... your opinion on firearms now bears even less weight (if that is possible).

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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2005, 09:06:56 AM »
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Not only that beet but those self same democrats and women would now ban you from ever owning a firearm after your latest unfortunate incident.  So really.... your opinion on firearms now bears even less weight (if that is possible).

lazs


Hey we got that one here already...oh btw was passed when both houses were controled by, and the Governor was republican.

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