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Offline IK3

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« on: April 29, 2005, 09:49:43 PM »
who will win in this slugfest...?

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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2005, 09:51:44 PM »
depends on the other variables.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2005, 10:34:18 PM »
If the russian planes lure the LW into a turnfight... bye bye LW

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2005, 10:51:43 PM »
First I assume you're matching the La7 to the 109G10 and the yak9U to the Dora.


I know for a fact I've shot down many a Lgay7 in a G10. Even in turn-type fights... Just depends how you turn and in what plane. And if you lure the bugger up the engine power falls off dramatically. I really don't care to stoop to the level of the La7 to see how well it does vs a G10, but the G10 is more than capable. However the La7 can tuck tail and run like most do (lol)

Yak9U vs Dora... Well the dora has more power. Period. Better guns package. Better engine. Better speed. Better zoom. Yak9U has porked damage model (wings won't rip off in high speed dive like they did in real life). While the 9U is manuverable and pretty powerful, I think the Dora has the better vertical and the better guns package (and more ammo for that package). Plus dora can just tuck tail and run like most do (lol)

But this doesn't answer your question. This is just my opinion on the matter.

The answer? Don't ask stupid questions :aok It's all subjective. Hell I shot down a G10 in a Mc202. Does that make the Mc202 better? Nah. Means I just shot one down. Subjective. No more. No less.

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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2005, 11:15:40 PM »
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Yak9U has porked damage model (wings won't rip off in high speed dive like they did in real life).

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whoa...

got sources for that?

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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2005, 03:54:35 AM »
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. Yak9U has porked damage model (wings won't rip off in high speed dive like they did in real life).


That was the lightweight Yak 3   a defect was found in the method used (at one production plant) to bond the wing skinning to the wing frame was not strong enough. Such that the skin could be ripped off in high g manouvres which led to failure of the main spar.

118 Yak3's were grounded for modification.

There is no such record for the Yak9U which was some 250kg heavier.

re the subject pilot for pilot the VVs ac would always win IMO if allowed to operate "in their element".

The capabilities of the La7 below 10K are superior in nearly every aspect to both the LW fighters concerned.

The Yak9U's performance between 10k and 18K are IMO equally superior as a package although it does not carry the firepower of its LW contempories.

As for the Yak3....it plays SpitV to the Yak9Us SpitIX
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2005, 05:35:50 AM »
The only thing wrong with the Yak is ammo load.

Tilt; you ever going to make that "dragon's mouth" La skin? that would look gorgeous with the new graphics....

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2005, 06:43:56 AM »
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While the 9U is manuverable and pretty powerful, I think the Dora has the better vertical


If you use AH as a reference, D9 has much poorer vertical than Yak9U. If you try to fight a 9U in the vertical, you are done.

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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2005, 11:45:54 AM »
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The only thing wrong with the Yak is ammo load.

Tilt; you ever going to make that "dragon's mouth" La skin? that would look gorgeous with the new graphics....


I bow to the skills of others on skins...I am no match for airmess or kweassa..........

White 15 was an La5 flown by G Kostylyov although credited to belong to the 3GvIAP. AH does not feature the La5 or the La5F.

Kostylyov (HSU) flew with the best of soviet pilots (including Sukhov) flying Laggs and Hurricanes upto 43 when he was stripped of his HSU and demoted for publically critisising a party commissar (polpovnik)

Out of favour he was not given the pick of aircraft and was eventually given (early 44)  an old La5  (neither La5F or La5FN) which he painted to  bear the dragons teeth.


He flew wing for a while and was then transferred (44) to the training services where he became eventually director of training for the Baltic fleet air arm responsible for maintaining training across front line fighter units, with whom he flew in combat reputedly eventually racking up a score of some 40 plus kills although his kills as a trainer inspector had to be credited to the regiment under inspection at the time.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2005, 01:02:38 PM »
"AH does not feature the La5 or the La5F"

But it's close enough to the FN that I'm pretty sure HTC would accept it. The restriction about skins being for the model of plane we have in AH is in case they are going to add new skins (example no 190A-3s for the a5, because they may add an a3 someday). There's no reason to give us 4-5 nearly identical LA-5 variants, so go ahead and skin it, or ask Skuzzy if he thinks it'd be accepted.

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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2005, 01:08:05 PM »
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who will win in this slugfest...?


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