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Offline Tumor

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« Reply #225 on: May 18, 2005, 10:15:59 PM »
I have nose goblins.
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« Reply #226 on: May 18, 2005, 10:20:22 PM »
It was before my time as a BK, but I remember that whole "debacle" as some kind of coincidence because BK's were flying in different countries killing each other, as we often do?

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« Reply #227 on: May 18, 2005, 10:50:54 PM »
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TC would be laughing at a guy bailing instead of fighting , as much as anyone else who plays the game would be - isn't that what started all this. He has a sense of in-game honour or ethics or code of conduct, that you seem to be unable to understand.

I also know a number of other member of the AH DMD, I flew with Whels for years, I've met Coach and Dano and Max. I know them and how they play, they are all fighters and they all retain their sense of humor and honor. I know that what Redd speaks is true, and it makes me wonder why you fly with them or vice versa with your attitudes and general childishness.

BTW, I do not speak for the BKs nor do they for me.

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It was before my time as a BK, but I remember that whole "debacle" as some kind of coincidence because BK's were flying in different countries killing each other, as we often do?


Yes, and please stop killing me Stang. It's to the point now where I am afraid to attack an enemy G10 unless I know where you are!
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« Reply #228 on: May 18, 2005, 11:13:01 PM »
WTFG HiTech, are your trainers supposed to take new guys, berate them, and then bad mouth squads for you??
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WOOO HOOOO! You guys got a new recruit. Woof!!
New kid on the block! Pump him up like yer favorite squadie but get him before he learns about the game and realizes you guys are a buncha tard's who do nothing but whine.

Skywolf, yer new. If you want to be treated like those guys thats your choice. For you responses so far you just might fit in but ask Morp how he got his kills a while back...better yet I think TC might repost it for ya. . You might find yer new dudes are a small minority of the whole group




Ren you and Beet make good bed mates, you both argue like women.  

How might that be you ask...

We'll I'll quote a great line delivered by Jack Nicolson, when his character was asked, how he wrote from a womans persprective so well...  in As Good as it Gets.

His reply,   "I start with a man and remove all reason, logic and accountability."  

LOLH - man does that fit you and Beet.  For god sakes women aren't even as bad as you two guys.

I know if I run into Xmoron, he is going to avoid a fight at all cost.  If you run into any of the BKs, you will get the fight of the night or your arse handed to you.  Either way you will walk away thinking man that is what AH is about.  The only way your going to walk away from xmorons type of game play, the one you so vehimently defend, is thinking, man that guy is a sweetheart bag and this game sucks.

So good luck on your attack on the BKs Ren, you'll need it.  Oh BTW throw those grapes out, they are sour.  :rofl

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And for God's sake man....lose the #$%^ing Muhahaha crap. That's about the lamest thing I've ever seen (aside from your other posts). I'm embarrassed for you just reading it.
LOLH this is good advice as well Ren.

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« Reply #229 on: May 18, 2005, 11:14:58 PM »
give it up guys lol gameplay is just fine.

no one does exactly what you would like them to do, but thats the point, you aren;t flying against AI
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« Reply #230 on: May 19, 2005, 01:15:36 AM »
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It was before my time as a BK, but I remember that whole "debacle" as some kind of coincidence because BK's were flying in different countries killing each other, as we often do?

:confused:



It was a different squad Stang, Ren is confused.
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« Reply #231 on: May 19, 2005, 03:53:43 AM »
ROFL! What a flamefest to wake up to! :rofl :aok

I've made the points I wanted to make. The main one was that when *I* expressed discontent/confusion over the way some folks played this game 2-3 years ago, I was chided by the furballers along the lines of "they just won't play *your* way, will they, Generalissimo?", followed by the lecture about "more choices", and "more freedoms", various tards chipping in with quips like "I fly for me not for you", and "Give me your CC# and I'll fly however you want".

OK, fair enough - I just had to accept what I found in the arena, and stopped trying to suggest changes. I didn't like the suicide crap, I didn't like the way so many insisted on flying late war uberplanes the whole time, and I didn't like having to fly on maps where the fields were so close together that the warning siren on one field could be heard at the next. LOL-H!

But sadly, the gameplay that I was forced to accept could not hold my interest. That's why I'm on the sidelines waiting for TOD. And I am far from alone. There's a whole air force of us out here.

Don't get me wrong - what REALLY cracks me up is not that xmarine or anyone else is trashing hangars/whatever, but that  the boot is now on the other foot! The furballers, who revelled in their condemnation and belittlement of anyone who wanted to participate in base captures,  are now finding that THEIR game is being ruined, that THEIR skills aren't enough to repulse the tards, and that 90% of the AH populace refuses to fly the way THEY want them to fly.

Poetic justice in its finest form - I couldn't have dreamed of a more fitting outcome! :rofl:rofl  <-one was not enough

When I'm done laughing, I could be interested in joining a reasoned debate about what changes (short of TOD) could be applied to improve gameplay. We've had the furballer instigated grand experiment, whereby the "war" has been relegated to an insignificant sideshow. We've gone through the fly what you like/more choices/more freedoms/chiding the generalissimi...

... and look how it's ended up - ROFL

Didn't anyone explain to you leet furballers that bombs are designed to be dropped on buildings, and are designed to cause destruction? That is what's supposed to happen. But no, we can't have that, so perk bombs! If you're soooooo skilled, you could always do what I used to do, which was to fight off threats to destroy hangars/CV etc. But no. You don't want to do that because it's "not fun". And why bother - when you can come here and whine instead. You refuse to accept the war concept, in which guys were told what they had to fly, and who they had to fight.

One day (but it might not be today) some of you guys might have to accept that the gameplay will always be crap, if the only driving force is "fly what you like/more choices/freedoms". Because what you've overlooked is that the TARDZ also pay $14.95/mo, and they also are entitled to play this game, the way THEY want. They don't have to furball just because that's what YOU want. They don't have to turn with you guys, no matter how much you rant. They don't have to fly a SpitV or FM2 just because Morpheus tells them to.

IMO - the game needs to be driven by an objective. Turnfiting/ACM/flying a SpitV may well be a significant part of an improved game, but won't and should not be the game itself. The lack of any such objective which would foster a team spirit is why the gameplay has degenerated to the status quo you guys are whining about today. But as far as I'm concerned, you got what you deserved.

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« Reply #232 on: May 19, 2005, 08:14:54 AM »
Ren, I'm just curious, and not really trying to insult you, but what exactly do you teach people as a trainer?  I mean, after the usual "how do I lower my gear/take off/etc."

Suppose the guy has no idea what he wants to learn, he just knows he "sucks".  Where would you start him off?

Also - why does everyone always assume "furballers" only want a massive fifty-plane whilrlibird of activity?  I think the term is misread often.  I read it more as someone who enjoys a fight, whether that be angles, energy, or an aggressive Boom and Zoom.

OTOH, why do you automatically assume that the "90%" of the arena that doesn't fly the way "We" want them to does so because that's how they want to fly?

I am personally of the opinion that a good portion of this "90%" flys how they do simply because they don't know any other way to survive ten seconds upon encountering an opponent.  I realize that this is how you learn, but I also realize that if a guy doesn't have any foundation to work with, and gets blasted that quick by nearly everyone, he's going to get very discouraged.

As for your comments about the BKs...  All I have to say is that Morpheus, Redd, and Nomak are three of six people who have taken me to the DA for a VERY long time each, wrote me emails to help me out, given me films, and provided me with such a foundation.
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« Reply #233 on: May 19, 2005, 08:25:37 AM »
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ROFL! What a flamefest to wake up to! :rofl :aok
(Some really long nonsensical blathering deleted)
 But as far as I'm concerned, you got what you deserved.

:aok


Why don't you just go back to pushing women around.... you are no good at intimidating men (of course you knew that or you wouldn't have been pushing women around to begin with). For you to call that an "unfortunate chapter of your private life" is indicative of what a butt nugget you really are.
Your credibility with me (and others I'm sure) is nil.
This thread was about the obvious lameness of some tactics like the run and bail and was helpful in letting a new guy know about some of the lame-oscared people who play this game. Doubly so when you and your Damned butt buddy Ren piped up with your little unprovoked, unwarranted, and unwanted rant about the BK's. At least I know now who to listen to and who to ignore and laugh at.
So thanks... you and Ren helped me after all. Now I know who to scrape off the bottom of my shoe.

:aok

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« Reply #234 on: May 19, 2005, 09:26:20 AM »
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How many = a couple and with how many posts of badmouthing some dude on the same thread? Thats a buncha crap and if you've been around for any length of time you'd know it too. GA and ask TC or anyone in the Damned if they really care if some dude bails

Actually what TC and I think about some guy bailing doesn't end up on the boards, ever. In fact, we've been around so long we don't even think about some guy bailing.


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Bah ,  TC would be laughing his head off at the "bail not fight" strategy - I'd put money on it

and ....I've  been around a while Ren , I just don't feel the need to tell  everyone in every post, like you seem to need to do.  

but anyway keep digging that hole deeper ......
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« Reply #235 on: May 19, 2005, 09:36:48 AM »
What is this furball you guys speak of? oh and how does one perform this move? Oh where can I buy one at? Oh and I like PIZZA!!!!!!

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« Reply #236 on: May 19, 2005, 10:46:11 AM »
Well I guess it is good to see that there are a lot more people in this game that have a clue, care about the community and the game and can see through the smoke screen some throw up.


I guess every group has to have it's share of sweetheart bags and dik weeds as well.  So with that in mind...   Beet, Ren and Xmarine thanks for fullfilling a natural postion and order of the state of things. :rofl  Thank God, 1) Beet doesn't fly anymore lolh, 2) Ren is barely on ever, 3) The way I fight I will never end up running into XMarine.

For all you guys that like to log in and get into the action, that like to fight , keep up the good work and watch your 6 :aok

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« Reply #237 on: May 19, 2005, 11:27:33 AM »
It was a different squad Ren.  Long before Jeff or myself became Blue Knights.  The only regret I have of all that mess was not standing behind Jeff.  I should have.

You really should take time to do your homework before lamely trying to throw out crap from years ago as some kind of incriminating evidence.

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« Reply #238 on: May 19, 2005, 11:43:57 AM »
OK, lemme get this summary straight....

Gameplay sucks, the BK's are all crybaby whiners and Ren is a good for nothing tool?

I think:

gameplay is OK but could be better

the BK's are OK too, never had a problem with any of them other than repeatedly dying to them

Ren has always been helpful to me in the TA

Everybody take a deep breath, count to ten, and have a beer, its gonna be alright. :)

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« Reply #239 on: May 19, 2005, 12:00:45 PM »
I've vented my spleen - but I want to make clear that I have nothing against the BK guys. Mars01, Slapshot, Nopoop, Lazs, Dipstick are all great guys. And Morpheus? Yeah he's OK too. :) You guys just need to show a bit more tolerance to "strat guys", and maybe understand that some people DO enjoy capturing bases, and flying planes other than the SpitV - or even driving tanks/boats etc. It's all in the game because HTC intended for it to be used.

I hope something happens that improves things for all, and ends the polarisation between furballers and strat guys which has plagued us for years.

Failing that, I'll look out for the next chargrilled BK Flamer!

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