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Offline Sandman

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« on: May 09, 2005, 12:51:52 PM »
Damn... one more thing that we won't be able to do.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/05/04/internet.hunting.ap/?section=cnn_tech

Oh... and before you start the California bashing, Congress is moving on it also.

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3497821


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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2005, 12:56:45 PM »
Which is the 2nd amendment thingy again?

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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2005, 01:00:15 PM »
A tool to avoid having our own version of Kristallnacht.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2005, 01:16:25 PM »
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"We don't think Californians should be able to hunt sitting at their computers at home," said Steve Martarano, a spokesman for the state Department of Fish and Game.

A bill passed by the state Senate two weeks ago would prohibit use of computer-assisted hunting sites and ban the import or export of any animal killed using computer-assisted hunting. The measure now moves to the state Assembly.


ROFL!! Brilliant!!

Dammo.. we can set up remote firing stations at key points throughout the world.. allow taxpayers to log onto 'plugaterrorist.org' and wallah! we can...

BRING THE TROOPS HOME!!
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2005, 01:43:19 PM »
Whats the bad thing with that? its a good thing.
Thats just stupid to allow people to "hunt" over the net.
They should stick to games.

Disabled people screaming for their rights to hunt, now thats amusing, even if their disability isn't (disability isn't a reason not to laugh at ones opinion).
I can hardly call it hunting to point & click through the internet... even the gun platform is fixed.
Even so, most of the disabled people CAN do the same. If they really want to go hunting that badly, why not get a buddy to help them and go sit to middle of nowhere, waiting for an animal to go cross by and shoot it. They can do that.

Overall this way of "hunting" as target shooting, in which there are more approriate targets than live animals.


oh yeah.. the meaning of hunting:

hunt    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (hnt)
v. hunt·ed, hunt·ing, hunts
v. tr.

To pursue (game) for food or sport.
To search through (an area) for prey: hunted the ridges.
To make use of (hounds, for example) in pursuing game.
To pursue intensively so as to capture or kill: hunted down the escaped convict.
To seek out; search for.
To drive out forcibly, especially by harassing; chase away: hunted the newcomers out of town.


Not very sitting sport, is it?


It doesn't either sound like connected to the 2nd amendment, because isn't it something about the inviduals right to bear arms?
I didn't know the mouse was a weapon or covered by the 2nd amendment.
Or how is it possible for an invidual to defend himself, his property or the country's libery, with a remote controlled weapon, which sits middle of nowhere with a purpose to shoot animals.
Leave remote controlled toys for the military, they got better use for it than to shoot animals as a hobby.. and if they do, AT LEAST they do it by actually hunting. Their toys are quite mobile compared to this fixed remote "hunting" toy.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2005, 02:22:18 PM »
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A tool to avoid having our own version of Kristallnacht.


I thought the strong influence of the insurance indusry was supposed to do that

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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2005, 02:43:50 PM »
Thanks Sandman for the Link.

And just when the grotesquely obese were no longer going to have to worry about the tree stand collapsing again...

Man is it me or are we becoming too bone idle for words? When we are so lazy we can't even be bothered to engage in leisure pursuits for real, you know the culture has just gotten decadent.

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2005, 05:12:11 PM »
I see no erosion in the 2nd amendment witgh this law however stupid it may be.

This outlaws hunting by electronic proxy, it does not say you cannot own any certian type of firearm.  It regulates hunting and this has been in the power of government to do so since the beginning.

The law seems stupid to me because laws should remedy some percieved problem. If this is the most important problem these states have, then our problems do not seem so bad after all.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2005, 05:26:10 PM »
It's just a game law.

I'm sure they'll let you OWN a computer aimed and operated firearm.  You just can't legally take game animals with it.

It's no different really than the laws in about every state that say guns used on deer must be centerfire cartridges >.22 cal.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2005, 05:27:58 PM »
I agree, I dont see this as an erosion of the second amendment.

I dont believe that point and click with a mouse is hunting in any sense of the word.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2005, 05:28:46 PM »
amazing that some of you here are appaled at this, yet you're all for drone aircraft killing terrorists.

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2005, 06:07:44 PM »
How much different is that from a tree stand and a scoped rifle :) Or one of the fenced in hunting ranges where the game is practically domesticated?

Admittedly never been much of a hunter, but I can see the sport in actually tracking and taking the game in the wild. Maybe it is far more exciting than I give it credit, but a stand or hunting ranch seem a bit to point and click to me.

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2005, 06:11:50 PM »
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amazing that some of you here are appaled at this, yet you're all for drone aircraft killing terrorists.


If some deer destroys a building with a few hunded people inside, I'd be all for drone killing of his little deer friends.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2005, 06:17:54 PM »
the arizona border would be a good place to set up remote firing stations, no?

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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2005, 06:25:01 PM »
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amazing that some of you here are appaled at this, yet you're all for drone aircraft killing terrorists.


Well at least your CPID fits you right ;-)

You gotta be kidding me.

This has no bearing on the 2nd Amedment. It's absolutely rediculous beyond stupid to allow such a moronic lazy arsed thing to let happen.

You just can't get any lazier then this. Not only that but can you imagine the accidents that can evolve from such a pathedic idea?

If you can't get your butt out into the woods and do it yourself on the spot you have no justification to hunt at all. Hunting is about more then firing on an animal, it's called sporting.

Besides this news is nothing new it's several months old.

Personally I hope they make it a felony across the nation. This will make it illegal to ever own a gun again. Felons can not hold, own or fire a firearm or any other weapon.