Another day in "Stable" Iraq

[Momus--]

Nope, no WMD, but from a tactical point of view, militaristically speaking, it was a brilliant move to take Iraq in the war against terrorism. Think of it as a "Neighborhood Block Watch" on countries like Syria, Iran, and dare I say...Saudi Arabia..

Yes, killing tens of thousands more Iraqis and risking the further radicalisation of the current generations of arabs was a really smart move. Not to mention confirming in the eyes of practically the whole region the radical islamist's primary contention that the land of Islam and of the arabs is under attack. Add to that if you like the creation of exactly the conditions that the war was ostensibly initiated to avoid in uniting secular ba'thists and islamic terrorists where no previous union existed. Fantastic.

Good to see you back Rip, people with enough emotional capital tied up in Bush to believe his crap tastes of honey were getting a little thin on the ground, really now.

[Ripsnort]

I see the Ameri-hater crew is hard at work here still, thought Skuzzy would have banned a few of you by now, and apparently he has, but given reprieve.  Thats a shame.  You ever posted anything positive about the US, Momus? Or are those grapes just too high in the Bush and too sour to reach? (Pun intended)

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by GScholz
Ah, so you’re saying that there are no carriers flying from India directly to the US, and not that the 787 is the only airliner that can do so?

GDoltz, read the thread again.  Then read the article in that thread.  Here, I will even quote it for you

With its innovations, the 787 will allow Air India to open new nonstop routes such as Delhi-New York and Mumbai – San Francisco economically, while offering passengers unprecedented comfort.

Keyword, GDoltz...E-C-O-N-O-M-I-C-A-L-L-Y.  

(Shakes head) You're too easy, son.

[Ripsnort]

hehe, been 10 min since GDoltz replied...he must be busy trying to find a non-stop flight from Singapore to LA.

Or possibly doing fuel comsumption calculations with an A340 vs the projected fuel burn on the new 787.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by GScholz
You’re not very good at lying.

Practice makes perfect.

I'm sorry you feel that I am lying. I do appreciate you expressing this, but I have no need to lie to anyone in person, let alone on a message board to an individual thousands of miles away. As far as the topic, your responses are telling enough.

Originally posted by Momus--
Since none of this has a bearing on why you invaded, no matter how much the neo-cons and the murdochian press desperately squawk otherwise, it is pretty irrelevant one way or the other.

But no matter.

You are right. It doesn't matter why the international coalition invaded Iraq in this topic, but the questions have nothing to do with that.

Originally posted by Momus--
You cited the thousands of deaths prior to 2003 as some kind of example of how the situation has improved.

No, I cited them in response to a post that cited opinions as facts.  


 

Originally posted by Momus--
but you (the USA) had a hand in the preceding bloodshed,

We did.

I still would like to know what your answers to those questions would be.

[Momus--]

There are lots of postive things about the USA Rippy, your proximity to Canada for one, and the plethora of hot mexican women for another. But let's get back to the matter in hand.

One would imagine that if your contention that going into Iraq would somehow draw the terrorists away from attacking other parts of the globe was correct then we would see an attendant reduction in the number of worldwide terrorist attacks. Is that a reasonable assumption?

Linky
 

The number of serious international terrorist incidents more than tripled last year, according to U.S. government figures, a sharp upswing in deadly attacks that the State Department has decided not to make public in its annual report on terrorism due to Congress this week..

..Overall, the number of what the U.S. government considers "significant" attacks grew to about 655 last year, up from the record of around 175 in 2003, according to congressional aides who were briefed on statistics covering incidents including the bloody school seizure in Russia and violence related to the disputed Indian territory of Kashmir...

.."Last year was bad. This year is worse. They are deliberately trying to withhold data because it shows that as far as the war on terrorism internationally, we're losing," said Larry C. Johnson, a former senior State Department counterterrorism official, who first revealed the decision not to publish the data...

[Torque]

"Originally posted by Ripsnort
Nope, no WMD, but from a tactical point of view, militaristically speaking, it was a brilliant move to take Iraq in the war against terrorism. Think of it as a "Neighborhood Block Watch" on countries like Syria, Iran, and dare I say...Saudi Arabia..

WTG Bush, brilliant stategist he is!"

would you still think alone the same lines if your kids were there rip?

dropping the ball on finding laden and diverting the majority of resources to a war in iraq, is a slap on the face to the victims of 9/11 imo.

iraq is not about terrorism, but rather china will soon over shadow america when it comes to oil consumption, it would of been just a matter of time before china moved in, can't have that.

considering that most of the terrorists from 9/11 were saudis and that repressive regime is somewhat unstable. securing the world's two largest oil reserves from unstable or unfriendly hands is what this is all about.

i hardly think bush has the ability to decipher the intelligence briefs he receives, or let alone strategize for that matter. he was the chosen one because he is malleable. why else would they have done such a blatant hatchet job on Mccain.

[Momus--]

Yes Lazerus, I think that compared to the Iran-Iraq war and post-Desert Storm eras the prospects for normal Iraqis are better than they have been for some time. That isn't saying very much though really is it?

[Krusher]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
hehe, been 10 min since GDoltz replied...he must be busy trying to find a non-stop flight from Singapore to LA.

Or possibly doing fuel comsumption calculations with an A340 vs the projected fuel burn on the new 787.

give him a break rip, googling the answer that suits him takes time.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by GScholz
So what’s with the hostility?





No I was having dinner, but since you asked:

Singapore
(SIN - Singapore) Los Angeles
(LAX - Los Angeles) 13 May 05
16:10
Fri 13 May 05
17:30
Fri 16 hr 20 min Airbus A340-500  

http://www.singaporeair.com

Took me about 2 minutes.

So … will you admit to being wrong? Or perhaps just scuttle away and hide like you usually do?

I admit to being wrong about the current non-stop flight.  Now, how are you going to prove that its more economical? ..too easy.

Regarding the "hostility" question, you guys brought it on yourself.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Krusher
give him a break rip, googling the answer that suits him takes time.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by Momus--
That isn't saying very much though really is it?

I had about 150 words in reply to that one little sentence, cursor hovoring over the 'submit reply' tab. Power to my entire street blinked out and the reply blinked with it. The short version: yes and no.

[MENDEZ]

We all have blood on our hands.

Trading innocent lives so that people can drive down a strait road in there fat SUV's guzzling gallon after gallon of gas.

Shame on you and us all for becoming lazy'you' being the Fox news brainwashed mass, 'us all' being the enlightned who put human life over finacial gain, but by having that attitude can't establish the power to buy an election.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by MENDEZ


We all have blood on our hands.

Trading innocent lives so that people can drive down a strait road in there fat SUV's guzzling gallon after gallon of gas.

Shame on you and us all for becoming lazy'you' being the Fox news brainwashed mass, 'us all' being the enlightned who put human life over finacial gain, but by having that attitude can't establish the power to buy an election.

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by Gixer
Interesting that you picture hardons.  You  might want to talk to someone about that.


...-Gixer

Typical, You hate gays as well?

What a wonderfull guy.