Author Topic: US Military Base Closure list unveiled (Read 1802 times)

Dnil · « **Reply #45 on:** May 13, 2005, 04:29:50 PM »

just saw a local TV report about ellington here in Houston.

It is saying that the f-16s here will be gone. But if you look at the list put out it doesnt show that. It shows an army reserve unit, not an Air national guard unit.

What I can deduce is that they are retiring the planes and 2 years and not replacing them. But its not being reported as a loss. Something is fishy. Me thinks someone is cooking the books.

Plus nothing is said about the army unit that flies apaches out there.

Tumor · « **Reply #46 on:** May 13, 2005, 04:30:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Silat
Didnt this radical right wing administration tell us that IRAQ would pay for the war?
Show me the money?
If they were paying for it we wouldnt be seeing the closures...

Now now Silat... you know better.

sullie363 · « **Reply #47 on:** May 13, 2005, 05:17:20 PM »

Yay, nothing getting shut down in Oregon.

Silat · « **Reply #48 on:** May 13, 2005, 05:17:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Tumor
Now now Silat... you know better.

I know nothinggggggggggg!!

DiabloTX · « **Reply #49 on:** May 13, 2005, 05:19:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Dnil
just saw a local TV report about ellington here in Houston.

It is saying that the f-16s here will be gone. But if you look at the list put out it doesnt show that. It shows an army reserve unit, not an Air national guard unit.

What I can deduce is that they are retiring the planes and 2 years and not replacing them. But its not being reported as a loss. Something is fishy. Me thinks someone is cooking the books.

Plus nothing is said about the army unit that flies apaches out there.

Dnil, I am surprised that 2, 11, 13, or 26 even got the F-16 part right. Our reserve center on OST is due to close and be moved to Ellington by 2009. The sooner we move the better as I am only 3 minutes from Ellington and about 25 from the center on OST.

Dnil · « **Reply #50 on:** May 13, 2005, 06:13:47 PM »

heh, i live like 8 minutes from ellington tops. I fly out of there. Will be major suckage with the 16s gone.

Just seems odd how its not in the report.

Shamus · « **Reply #51 on:** May 13, 2005, 06:23:47 PM »

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Originally posted by DoctorYO [/
To cannabalize the military in a time of conflict is irresponsible... (especially since they say we are winning/succeding in our missions across the globe....)

DoctorYo [/B]

It depends on what the conflict is.

So many of those bases were justified by the possibility of large scale war and the requirement to stage huge amounts of troops/equipment.

We are told now that we need more S/O to fight the war on terror, would lead me to believe that a lot more bases could be closed without any problems to speak of.

shamus

PS. I consider the Corps as S/O

DiabloTX · « **Reply #52 on:** May 13, 2005, 07:07:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Dnil
heh, i live like 8 minutes from ellington tops. I fly out of there. Will be major suckage with the 16s gone.

Just seems odd how its not in the report.

With all of the refineries and and Port of Houston, those 16's ain't goin' nowhere.

Lizking · « **Reply #53 on:** May 13, 2005, 07:11:13 PM »

Ellington should have been closed (as a military base) about 30 years ago.

ASTAC · « **Reply #54 on:** May 13, 2005, 07:16:50 PM »

At least alot of the Navy installations were just extra fat that needed to be trimmed, though I would have like to been able to go to Texas or Mississippi(since Hampton roads sux and I don't want to go all the way to San Diego)..As far as econopmics goes...It is not our (the military) responsibility to provide business to the local economy..in fact MOST if not all business that deal with the military personnel are just trying to take advantage and screw us over anyway..so f-em I say..wish they'd have closed NAS Oceana here just to slap this POS town in the face.

Rino · « **Reply #55 on:** May 13, 2005, 08:33:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Silat
I know nothinggggggggggg!!

Well that statement is certainly unassailable

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #56 on:** May 13, 2005, 08:33:23 PM »

In NJ they are gonna be making a big stink over Ft Monmouth as it is going to ruin the local economy and basically turn the area into a ghost town.

Not surprised about Kilmer. Actually I am surprised.
Im surprised it is still even listed as active as I thought that was closed years ago.

In any event its not really needed as there is another reserve station not 1/2 hour drive away.

Camp Kilmer used to be a pretty big staging area during WWII for troops being sent overseas but its been pretty much empty for as far back as I can remember. I rarely ever say much in the way anyone could call activity there. and a Post office and Motor Vehicle inspection station takes up a large slice of the area it occupies.

Dnil · « **Reply #57 on:** May 13, 2005, 09:45:32 PM »

yes liz, the 4th largest city, largest port and largest refinery area needs to be left undefended.

Its insane to think of nothing here to defend it all.

By all means lets just put everything in 1 base. Make one uber super base. Then all joe blow terrorist needs to do is drive his suitcase nuke to Norfolk and wipe out everything we have.

EDIT: Also note that the loss of the f16s saves the military a grand total of 3 million dollars. Wooohoooo enough to maybe buy a T-6 Texan II. Well used one.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #58 on:** May 13, 2005, 09:49:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
Ellington should have been closed (as a military base) about 30 years ago.

It was. It is now known as Ellington Field (as opposed to Ellington Air Force Base as it was once known). It supports the ANG as well as NASA and some short-hop airlines.

Lizking · « **Reply #59 on:** May 13, 2005, 09:55:26 PM »

Dnil, Ellington is an urban area. If those areas need local interceptor protection, which they don't, they need to build a new field off FM2004. Diablo, I was there when it was an active base, and also when it went to ANG status.