Author Topic: How is it we let minors in some states have abortions without parental concent?  (Read 594 times)

Offline Nilsen

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you are reading way too much into my post :D

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Originally posted by Raider179
This is a tough issue. I would say under 16 demand parental notification. Use Social Services, do a blood test whatever to insure it wasnt the dad, brother, whoever. But they should be made aware so they can keep it from happening again. over 16 which is legal to be married in some states well that is up to them if they tell there parents.



That sounds reasonable enough to me.

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Cancer would be a different case. Cacner is an illness whereas pregnancy is not.  Not saying I agree with the rules.



It is still private medical info.

If you can hide an abortion why not that?


Minors are minors because they are not old enough to make legal decisions on their own. They cant drive, vote, drink etc.

They are their parents responisblilty and their parents have the right to know what goes on in EVERY part of their lives. Not just the right THE NEED to do the job right.
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Offline Fuzzy

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Well doing some research, it is State dependent on issues of emancipation due to pregnancy, with most having a requirement of age 16 or higher. Most will not grant an abortion without a court order. Most will not grant a court order unless there is a threat of harm from the parents.

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minors are people too



SO you would be fine with your 12 year old or 14 etc having an abortion without your knowledge?

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Well doing some research, it is State dependent on issues of emancipation due to pregnancy, with most having a requirement of age 16 or higher. Most will not grant an abortion without a court order. Most will not grant a court order unless there is a threat of harm from the parents.
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Can you post some links?

I looked earlier and didnt find much and the Planet parent hood site is a bunch of propaganda.

Offline Fuzzy

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here is Nevada law:

NRS 129.030  Consent for examination and treatment.

      1.  Except as otherwise provided in NRS 450B.525, a minor may give consent for the services provided in subsection 2 for himself or for his child, if he is:

      (a) Living apart from his parents or legal guardian, with or without the consent of the parent, parents or legal guardian, and has so lived for a period of at least 4 months;

      (b) Married or has been married;

      (c) A mother, or has borne a child; or

      (d) In a physician’s judgment, in danger of suffering a serious health hazard if health care services are not provided.

      2.  Except as otherwise provided in subsection 4 and NRS 450B.525, the consent of the parent or parents or the legal guardian of a minor is not necessary for a local or state health officer, board of health, licensed physician or public or private hospital to examine or provide treatment for any minor, included within the provisions of subsection 1, who understands the nature and purpose of the proposed examination or treatment and its probable outcome, and voluntarily requests it. The consent of the minor to examination or treatment pursuant to this subsection is not subject to disaffirmance because of minority.

      3.  A person who treats a minor pursuant to subsection 2 shall, before initiating treatment, make prudent and reasonable efforts to obtain his consent to communicate with his parent, parents or legal guardian, and shall make a note of such efforts in the record of his care. If the person believes that such efforts would jeopardize treatment necessary to the minor’s life or necessary to avoid a serious and immediate threat to the minor’s health, the person may omit such efforts and note the reasons for the omission in the record.

      4.  A minor may not consent to his sterilization.

      5.  In the absence of negligence, no person providing services pursuant to subsection 2 is subject to civil or criminal liability for providing those services.

      6.  The parent, parents or legal guardian of a minor who receives services pursuant to subsection 2 are not liable for the payment for those services unless the parent, parents or legal guardian has consented to such health care services. The provisions of this subsection do not relieve a parent, parents or legal guardian from liability for payment for emergency services provided to a minor pursuant to NRS 129.040.

      (Added to NRS by 1965, 170; A 1971, 1334; 1973, 25, 1521; 1975, 1475; 1977, 185; 1981, 1164; 2001, 820)

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search under teen pregnancy, emancipation, self determination

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(c) A mother, or has borne a child; or


OK so if she's pregnant does that constitute her being a Mother?????

If so whouldn't that language define the baby in her whome as living, alive, or a child?

If so whouldnt an abortion BASED ON THE LANGUAGE OF THIS LAW be considered murder/manslaughter?

My interpretion of this law would probably mean that a minor child who is a mother can get medical treatment for herself or the child.  An abortion wouldn't fall under that.

please correct me if i'm wrong though.

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So under navada law, a 12 year old who runs away for 4 months can get an abortion without parental concent?

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Fuzzy did you delete your post the one that was second in this thread?

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I did because I made it seem as though everywhere was the same. I hate to be misinformed and would not want to be quoted out of context.

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Fuzzy did you delete your post the one that was second in this thread?

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I am basing this on having positive pregnancy tests in an emergency room using the hospitals' guidelines on medical information release, and patient rights. As far as notifying the parents, it is our policy not to if the test is positive, deferring notification to the patient. In questionable cases, such as very young, etc, you could contact CPS/APS and have an inquiry ordered.

Malicious or even accidental usage of patient information (ie, your underage, immature, slutty daughter is pregnant) without consent is in violation of HIPPA (health information privacy and portability act). Whether or not prejudicial release of the information has taken place, the patient could interpret it as that and sue for damages as well as have the offending party(ies) fined heavily.  

Unfortunately because of the litigious society we live in, it has to be done this way.

I am unsure as to abortion rights. As stated above, most staes require court approval.

Not an expert, just commenting based on our policies.


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OK so if she's pregnant does that constitute her being a Mother?????

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Originally posted by Fuzzy
I am basing this on having positive pregnancy tests in an emergency room using the hospitals' guidelines on medical information release, and patient rights. As far as notifying the parents, it is our policy not to if the test is positive, deferring notification to the patient. In questionable cases, such as very young, etc, you could contact CPS/APS and have an inquiry ordered.

Malicious or even accidental usage of patient information (ie, your underage, immature, slutty daughter is pregnant) without consent is in violation of HIPPA (health information privacy and portability act). Whether or not prejudicial release of the information has taken place, the patient could interpret it as that and sue for damages as well as have the offending party(ies) fined heavily.  

Unfortunately because of the litigious society we live in, it has to be done this way.

I am unsure as to abortion rights. As stated above, most staes require court approval.

Not an expert, just commenting based on our policies.


taht's interesting as far as reporting goes.  I'm just curious about the mother line in the language of the law.  Is a pregnant minor who doesnt have any children considered a "mother"?

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I would think that is how the hospital's lawyers interpret it. I am no lawyer, but given the way it is written, it would seem that a pregnant woman is considered a mother.