Grand jury indicts mother who hired stripper for son's birthday party

[stantond]

Yet another example of "while there is no law against stupidity, it gets factored in".  Bringing in a stripper for your son's sixteenth birthday is a really bad idea.  Photoing it and going to the 1-hour developer is an even worse one.  


Regards,

Malta

[culero]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
The fact that they saw a stripper is not the point. It's the circumstances.
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The point is (well, the point I'm talking about anyway) is that people are making too big a friggin' deal about it.

I agree with you it shows very poor judgment on this woman's part, and that the other parents involved have every right to be pissed at her if she drug their kids into this without their prior knowledge.

But, IMO that's about as bad as it gets, it ain't something that merits wasting public law enforcement/judicial resources on. I'd rather have 'em focus on the people who are stealing $140 televisions and getting THEIR butts in jail.

And I think all the people expressing all the righteous indignation are over the top. It just ain't that big a damn deal. Its just titties, man, it ain't the end of western civilization

culero

[parker00]

Originally posted by culero
The point is (well, the point I'm talking about anyway) is that people are making too big a friggin' deal about it.

I agree with you it shows very poor judgment on this woman's part, and that the other parents involved have every right to be pissed at her if she drug their kids into this without their prior knowledge.

But, IMO that's about as bad as it gets, it ain't something that merits wasting public law enforcement/judicial resources on. I'd rather have 'em focus on the people who are stealing $140 televisions and getting THEIR butts in jail.

And I think all the people expressing all the righteous indignation are over the top. It just ain't that big a damn deal. Its just titties, man, it ain't the end of western civilization

culero

Would you feel the same way if it was a room full of girls that some father ordered a male stripper for? I think people would think he was some type of pervert or something. Would you be willing to say "it's just some guys junk their looking at, what's the big deal"

Edit: You ever seen a stripper at someone's house? It's always more than just titties.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by parker00
Would you feel the same way if it was a room full of girls that some father ordered a male stripper for? I think people would think he was some type of pervert or something. Would you be willing to say "it's just some guys junk their looking at, what's the big deal"

Edit: You ever seen a stripper at someone's house? It's always more than just titties.

Not to mention ILLEGAL!  It's against the law.  If it was just her son and in the privacy of their home I would see no big deal with this.  The fact that pictures were taken AND it involves other peoples kids means this isnt just "no big deadl"

[Staga]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
The fact that they saw a stripper is not the point. It's the circumstances. If "mom' is buying a stripper for a 16 year old's birthday party, you have to wonder (at least if you have any common sense) what ELSE she's buying, or allowing him to have or do.

Hmmm my dad bought me a bottle of wine every now and then; I wonder why he didn't bring me any dope like your common sense says.

btw how old do you have to be in US to face charges in court as adult ?

[parker00]

Originally posted by Staga
Hmmm my dad bought me a bottle of wine every now and then; I wonder why he didn't bring me any dope like your common sense says.

btw how old do you have to be in US to face charges in court as adult ?

It depends on the charge, if it's murder then i don't think there is an age limit. Most things are anywhere from 16-18.  

Also did your dad supply it to the other kids in the neighborhood or just you? For the 4 other countries i've been to, drinking wasn't high on the illegal list or at least not inforced so how does that really relate to sex or sexual acts?  Don't know about the strippers where you're from but the ones i've seen will do anything from useing a dildo to the candles on your wall. It is not normal or OK for a mother (who would even want their mom to buy them a stripper) of a 16 year old to buy him and HIS FRIENDS a stripper. Is there anyone here who would not have a problem if their 16 year old daughter came home and said "hey jo bob from down the street bought us a male stripper last night". Just because this is a guy doesn't make it ok.

Just like gunslinger said it would not of been that bad if they didn't include other peoples kids but they did and she should be punished in some way.

[Staga]

So 16 year old is old enough to get a death sentence in the court but not old enough to see a stripper?

He's also old enough to drive a car but not old enough to make a decision if he/she should watch s stripper performing or not?

[parker00]

Originally posted by Staga
So 16 year old is old enough to get a death sentence in the court but not old enough to see a stripper?

He's also old enough to drive a car but not old enough to make a decision if he/she should watch s stripper performing or not?

yeah maybe if you killed someone you could get the death penalty but even that would take another 10-15 yrs before they actually did it.


You seem to be getting two things mixed up, you can be charged under 18 as an adult but technically your not considered an adult until 18. Sounds a little confusing but that's the way it is over here. So to answer your question above, no he is not old enough to decide if he watches a stripper or not. you are also missing the point that this mother took it upon herself to decide not only what's good for her child but teenagers of other parents as well. that is why she should get in trouble. if she wants to get her son drunk, high or get him a stripper i guess that is up to her, but she took it upon herself to decide what was best for someone else's children as well. I am just as responsible for what my son does as he is in the courts eye until he is age 18. So that means I (not some twisted lady) get to decide what is best for my son/daughter. If this is hopeful thinking on my part so be it but I will not condone him doing things i don't like or approve of.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Staga
So 16 year old is old enough to get a death sentence in the court but not old enough to see a stripper?

He's also old enough to drive a car but not old enough to make a decision if he/she should watch s stripper performing or not?

no the legal age of adulthood in the US is 18.  At 18 you can go to strip clubs/juice bars depending on the states liqure laws.

If she wants to get her son drunk or get her son a stripper most people don't see a problem with it.  but the fact that she had OTHER PEOPLES KIDS involved is what makes this bad for me.  

Comparing the laws that trys juviniles as adults is apples and oranges.  Juviniles get charges as adults when they commit adult crimes.  In this case it is an ADULT commiting a crime against other peoples kids in exposing them to something that by law is deemed inappropriate for minors.  

She broke the law plain and simple.  This isn't about purtanical virtues its about age limits and appropriatness.

In some states I can give my kids beer/liqure in my home or in a bar if I deem it OK.  Most states to not allow me to give it to OTHER peoples kids.

[straffo]

nanny state.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Having recently seen a "mom" who took her daughter and daughter's friend out to get their cracks pierced...

ouch!!:eek:

Or did I read that wrong??

[culero]

Originally posted by parker00
Would you feel the same way if it was a room full of girls that some father ordered a male stripper for? I think people would think he was some type of pervert or something. Would you be willing to say "it's just some guys junk their looking at, what's the big deal"

Edit: You ever seen a stripper at someone's house? It's always more than just titties.

Yes, actually I'd have the same reaction if the sexes were reversed. Let's keep it in perspective:

1) Nobody is saying any sexual abuse occured, even in your sex-reversal scenario (my attitude would be different if that were the case).

2) I didn't say it was OK, I said the other parents have every right to be pissed.

3) I'm saying we don't need to have law enforcement resources involved, IMO its a waste of their valuable time, when much more important and urgent matters are at hand.

This is IMO something the parents should settle amongst themselves. I think people are too uptight about this, but that's me. I respect your right to decide for yourself, and YOUR children. That's what I am talking about here.

culero

[Swager]

Wow!  Cool mom!

But she could of used better judgement.  Should of used a digital camera.

[spitfiremkv]

If I was rich like Bill Gates I would have my lawyers defend people in cases like this. That would create precedents for future similar cases. I would change America!


erm I am a bit drunk

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Nilsen
At 16 i think they have seen far "worse" on their computers

Lmao for that matter they have probably seen fr worse on network TV