Author Topic: Finally some good news in Iraq/discuss vietnam with amerihaters thread  (Read 733 times)

Offline Gixer

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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2005, 04:53:44 PM »
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Gixer,

The US prsecuted the war in such a way that enraged a fair amount of the populace of the US, aided by the media, they protrayed events that were monority portions of the war (kinda rings a bell in Iraq) as the majority.  

In EVERY ground engagement of any size, the US kicked the crap outta the NVA.  

Unfortunately for the US, the clips of body bags arriving home on the evening news and the US media helped to trigger a series of events that restricted the US's overall prosecution of the war.

Had the US not had this hampering political influence, the NVA and VC would have been defeated, although it would have meant a long term occupation, along the lines of what is going on now in Iraq.

In the end, political pressure forced us to pull out, and in the end doomed the South Vietnamese Government and it's people to a brutal communist oppressive regime.


Gixer,
Ohh, and my apologies for the laughing about US deaths comment, it was not right.


Those are some good points but it dosn't result in changing history. And that America won the war in Vietnam.

As for all your points it's  an interesting debate though probably impossible to continue without insults once Nuke arrives. Unfortunetly I have to go check the weather so I'll have to get back to you at a later date.

Thanks. And no worries on the deaths statement.


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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2005, 04:55:31 PM »
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are you saying then that this never happend? or that the AP is misreporting??????

Please go stick your head in some sand and completly ignore what you read then....be my guest.



No I just said I'd like to see some other news reports on the matter as Fox certainly have their own way of reporting on events.


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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2005, 05:03:55 PM »
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No I just said I'd like to see some other news reports on the matter as Fox certainly have their own way of reporting on events.


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 What "way" is that?

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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2005, 05:14:12 PM »
I thought this was about  the suicide car bombers switching their insurance company to Geico.

I know it's bad taste but I had to.   :D

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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2005, 05:58:49 PM »
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No I just said I'd like to see some other news reports on the matter as Fox certainly have their own way of reporting on events.


...-Gixer


so you are saying that Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff direct quotes on a news program is biased?

do you not trust the AP either....the facts don't change much considering the article came from them, or are they biased as well?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ?SITE=VTBRA&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&SECTION=HOME

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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2005, 06:52:12 PM »
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popcorn - check
deckchair - check
plenty to smoke - check.

ok, carry on.



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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2005, 07:02:13 PM »
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the US was winning the war in Vietnam, but lost it at home...
 


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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2005, 07:12:36 PM »
Oral jousting with a chump!!
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2005, 08:23:04 PM »
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No I just said I'd like to see some other news reports on the matter as Fox certainly have their own way of reporting on events.


...-Gixer


As do CNN MSNBC and every other news outlet.
Each put their own spin on a story but I havent seen one including any of the 3 that were  any less accurate then any other.
Only the spin is different.

Take a measuring cup and fill it exactly half way.
One side will report it as being half empty, another will report it as being half full.

Both reports exactly accurate. The only difference is in the way they report it.
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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2005, 08:44:00 PM »
So, Gixer; at what age did yer mom stop dropping you on your head?

... just curious.
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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2005, 09:13:17 PM »
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As do CNN MSNBC and every other news outlet.
Each put their own spin on a story but I havent seen one including any of the 3 that were  any less accurate then any other.
Only the spin is different.

Take a measuring cup and fill it exactly half way.
One side will report it as being half empty, another will report it as being half full.

Both reports exactly accurate. The only difference is in the way they report it.


I understand but I still don't see how any of the FACTS in the article were Spun......How do you spin a direct  quote?

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Gen. Richard Myers (search), chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the Iraqi performance in the offensive would be an important indication of their readiness to take over security issues, a key part of the U.S. exit strategy from Iraq.

"Clearly what we want to have happen in Iraq is to have Iraqi security forces take charge of their own security. And every day, they're more and more able to do that," he said on "FOX News Sunday."
 

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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2005, 01:24:35 AM »
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I understand but I still don't see how any of the FACTS in the article were Spun......How do you spin a direct  quote?


I wasnt responding to the article in question but rather to what I had quoted about fox "having their own way of reporting events"

It was more of a general statement then addressing a specific issue.

I watch all of em and I dont see Fox reporting and I mean the actual  news reporting and not one of the shows like Hannity and Colms (dumb and dumber) or OReily as being any more or less accurate then any of the others
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2005, 01:25:26 AM »
The price of Freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle, anywhere, any time and with utter recklessness...

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2005, 02:26:09 AM »
^^ lol!
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2005, 02:40:40 AM »
Big laughs from both Hangtime, and Pei.

Gawd this board is hillarious at times.
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