Author Topic: History at the brickyard (Read 1647 times)

Terror · « **Reply #30 on:** May 31, 2005, 03:44:09 PM »

http://www.indymotorspeedway.com/danica.htm

I'd hit it!

Terror

lazs2 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 01, 2005, 08:38:38 AM »

muchpatric... I understand that but... lots of the cars were every bit as "budget" and those women didn't do any better than their peers.

race car drivers, as you know, have varrying degrees of natural and learned ability. I just don't hink that she is showing anything that is stellar. The money spent on her would have been better spent on one of the guys (so far as chance to win). you have a car that is equal to or better than any car on the track and it finnish's...... it better finnish in the top 2 or three.

Having said that... I will say that it is a smart move to get publicity for the race and may attract viewers.

lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 01, 2005, 09:47:03 AM »

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In addition to what? Cause he sure as hell cant drive a stock car worth a ****.

ROFL

rpm · « **Reply #33 on:** June 01, 2005, 10:35:43 AM »

He's a mediocre stock car driver at best.

J_A_B · « **Reply #34 on:** June 01, 2005, 10:37:40 AM »

"In addition to what? Cause he sure as hell cant drive a stock car worth a ****. "

In separate news, why do they still call them "stock cars"?

Granted I think cars with fenders and bumpers make for better racing than cars with wings and open wheels, but "stock" they are not. Take a car off the showroom floor and stick a rollbar in it and race it, that's how it should be done.

J_A_B

Jackal1 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 01, 2005, 10:49:46 AM »

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Granted I think cars with fenders and bumpers make for better racing than cars with wings and open wheels
J_A_B

Ever been to a WoO race?

Enduro · « **Reply #36 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:04:33 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
The money spent on her would have been better spent on one of the guys (so far as chance to win).

Sorry, been away at work...

Lazs, apparently, people with a lot more money and racing experience than you disagree with you.

Danica Patrick has the talent to win races in IRL. That's a fact. No, she's not having a spectacular rookie season, like Wheldon, but the woman deserves respect. When Patrick gains more experience & starts winning, we all know which old-school men here will whine.

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you have a car that is equal to or better than any car on the track and it finnish's...... it better finnish in the top 2 or three.

Patrick would have won if she didn't have to run the car lean during those last few laps. And, I'm sure if Danica had finished in 3rd instead of 4th, your statement would've been, "...it better finnish in the top 2."

lazs2 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:50:32 PM »

I won't whine... couldn't care less.. I have watched women do well in drag racing when they have never earned any of it... they simply were brought on board and taught by the best and given the best equipment.

I don't think women have paid enough dues as a gender in racing to be handed things on a silver platter. I never wrenched with any of em or seen em working on into the night on some barely holding together wreck on the worlds tightest budget.

They never really bled and sweated and died enough for the sports and now they want front row top shelf..

They are given it because it is good for racing I suppose... they draw crowds and that is about 50% of it. but they never earned the spot imo.

lazs

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 04, 2005, 01:03:48 PM »

Enduro she was running lean because she was out of pit sequence, which is how she got up front in the first place. Her repeated mistakes (stall and spin under yellow) turned a 1st place car into a 4th place car. Just like in quals when she botched her first lap. She's quick for sure, but mistake prone. She might mature out of the mistakes if she keeps getting lucky enough to not get injured by her screwups.

Enduro · « **Reply #39 on:** June 04, 2005, 01:07:06 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Enduro she was running lean because she was out of pit sequence, which is how she got up front in the first place. Her repeated mistakes (stall and spin under yellow) turned a 1st place car into a 4th place car. Just like in quals when she botched her first lap. She's quick for sure, but mistake prone. She might mature out of the mistakes if she keeps getting lucky enough to not get injured by her screwups.

Like I said, she's a rookie. And, yes, she's making rookie mistakes. But, at least you own up to the fact that she's quick. She belongs on the track.

lazs2 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 04, 2005, 01:40:44 PM »

a lot of people belong on the track... most of em have paid their dues driving mediocre cars too.

She may "belong" on the track but does she belong in the best car money can buy? And if she wins... did she win or did the car?

lazs

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #41 on:** June 04, 2005, 01:45:05 PM »

Lazs that's just how it is in racing. You can get a ride by being the best driver. Or you can get a ride by being "good enough" and bringing a lot of sponsor's (or personal) money to the table.

Enduro · « **Reply #42 on:** June 04, 2005, 01:52:55 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
a lot of people belong on the track... most of em have paid their dues driving mediocre cars too.

She may "belong" on the track but does she belong in the best car money can buy? And if she wins... did she win or did the car?

lazs

Danica has raced since she was a little kid in carts. She has worked hard for the opportunity that she has right now. She deserves the ride as much as anyone else. I'm sure that she's "paid her dues"...maybe not as hard as others have, but life - in every aspect - isn't always fair. You can't hang Danica Patrick for the unfortune of others. That attitude just stinks of jealousy.

Even you will have to admit that the car and the driver both win races. Neither succeeds without the other.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 04, 2005, 03:14:33 PM »

Talent can`t be bought or faked.
It wouldn`t make much of a difference where she placed. The point was made through sheer talent in driving. Anyone that watched the race and witnessed the conditions and obstacles she overcame and repeatedly kept coming back to the front also had to recognize the driving talent and determination that it took.
First half of the race her car was too tight....she still kept working up through the pack. Stall in the pits......she overcame it with sheer driving talent and steadily worked back up through the pack.
Restart contact and broken front wing that took quite a bit of time to replace.......She still came back.
Last part of the race her car was loose as a goose. ..... Didn`t matter, she still came to the front and drove her butt off.
Like I said at the beginning...like it or not, history was made at the Brickyard.

J_A_B · « **Reply #44 on:** June 04, 2005, 04:58:07 PM »

I'll say it, since nobody else seems willing to:

I have no interest in watching a woman racecar driver, whether she crashes on the first turn or wins every race. It has nothing to do with the relative skill of the driver....we could build robotic automobiles which would beat any living driver, but those wouldn't be interesting to watch, either.

J_A_B