Cheney you are full of ****

[lazs2]

are you guys that think the world isn't safer now that the sadman is gone really that short sighted?

lazs

[Momus--]

Originally posted by lazs2
are you guys that think the world isn't safer now that the sadman is gone really that short sighted?

lazs

How exactly do you quantify "safer"?

Terrorist attacks across the globe have increased significantly: Link

Recruitment to militant organisations is up: Link

Militant influence in the long time Islamists strongholds of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is as strong as ever: Link & Link

Still no resolution to the problem with North Korean nukes despite Bush's insistence that a diplomatic remedy is the only answer.

Meanwhile Iran scambles to build nukes spurred on by the example recently made of Iraq.

[lazs2]

I don't say that the world is safer at this exact time.  I say that establishing a democracy in the middle east in Iraq particularly will make the world safer..  

 I say it is long overdue but that it may take some time.   I also say that the sadman had worked on nukes before and I believe that he would again.

lazs

[MENDEZ]

Bush, Dick & rumy Suck:mad:

[Yeager]

Bush, Dick & Rumy are Heroes

[Monk]

Originally posted by MENDEZ
Bush, Dick & rumy Suck:mad:

Ya, man.............dammit!!!   You tell em.

[Torque]

saddam should be accountable for his actions, but those morally bankrupt politicians that took him off the known terrorist list, supplied him with billions of dollars and wmd and looked the other way when it was proven that he was committing mass genocide, surely deserve a pass for their actions.

democracy in the middle-east is long overdue, make those that subverted iran's democracy and subsequent support of a dictatorship for more than three decades, a tad short sighted.

if iraq wasn't sitting on the second largest reserve of oil, it would be reaganomics as usual.

typical double standard.

[Hangtime]

All entirely correct Torque. No flaws, no misses, no errors.

*ahem*

I hear canada has oil and beer.

...and a large french population that's beggin fer an arse-kickin.

don't make us come up there.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Raider179
The insurgency in Iraq is "in the last throes," Vice President Dick Cheney says, and he predicts that the fighting will end before the Bush administration leaves office.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/30/cheney.iraq/index.html

Wow I will take that bet. lol

Hehe looks like the administration is gonna pull us out of there no matter whats going on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4598761.stm

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari says he is worried that the US may pull its troops out before local forces are able to maintain security.

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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't say that the world is safer at this exact time.

Are you guys that think the world isn't safer now that the sadman is gone really that short sighted?

[Yeager]

Hehe looks like the administration is gonna pull us out of there no matter whats going on.
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so whats the "hehe" for raider?  you one of those people that think american failure in iraq would be a great victory?

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Yeager
Hehe looks like the administration is gonna pull us out of there no matter whats going on.
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so whats the "hehe" for raider?  you one of those people that think american failure in iraq would be a great victory?

 It's in reference to the first post in which Cheney specifies we will be out of Iraq before Bush leaves office. This saying by the Iraqi FM seems to indicate he thinks we are gonna leave them high and dry. So taking that all into account and the fact that the "insurgents" have only increased in the number of attacks since the elections, I ask you what makes Cheney believe Iraq is gonna be stable on it's own in less than 4 years?

Actually I believe America has reached past the point you can call it a failure. We gave them their chance for democracy (or freedom from Saddam,whichever you prefer) and if they screw it up from here blame rests on them. (the Iraqi's)

[lazs2]

I do believe that the world is better off without the sadman as a leader.

I think that we did not try to establish democracy and stabilize the regiopn for totally altruistic reasons although I believe that many people in the U.S. have altruistic reasons.

I think that what we did needed to be done eventually and it was simply a logical move that took guts and greed and ability all coming together to happen.

I think the world lucked out that all these things came together at the same time while the U.S. was the last remaining superpower.

lazs