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Offline Dago

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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2005, 08:42:06 AM »
When my two boys were small, one time we dropped in at a Dairy Queen where we selected 3 items from the freezer case that cost 66 cents each.  

Took them to the counter where the young man working the register rang them up and said "that will be $6.18.  

I said "no, three 66 cent items do not cost over six dollars".

He pointed at the register and said "thats what it says".

I again said "three items that cost 66 cents do not cost $6".

He again, while refusing to actually use his head for anything other than a place to keep his hair, pointed at the register and said "that's what it says".

This went on for a minute, while I tried explaining that three 66 cent items would total about 2 dollars plus a little tax.

Him - dumb look, followed by "thats what the register says".

Customer behind me "Jesus, I can't believe this".  

Me "yeah, amazing".

Finally a manager walks up, asks the problems, rerings it in the register, I pay him the $2 plus change, and leave.  I doubt it the moron ever realized the problem with not using his brain even a little.

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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2005, 10:15:36 AM »
I still laugh every time someone *****es about mail in rebates.

I can't believe some people haven't figured out yet that mail in rebates exist to try and screw you out of your money.

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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2005, 10:29:51 AM »
Where i work the staff are as bad if not worse than the customers.

Some examples i remember off the top of my head.

customer- Is this wine sweet?
assistant- It says it made from grapes so it must be sweet.

the same assistant and I chatting once-

Me- You're no einstein are you.
assistant- huh?
Me- you know, the physicist.  Invented the atom bomb....
assistant- aah-tom bomb?

With a different assistant

her- do you know what that says
Me- errr.....czech lager?
her- You know it too!!

the same girl also believed kangeroos came from spain.:D
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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2005, 10:34:30 AM »
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having dealt with the public since 1980 and the greatest portion of those years as an entrepenuer I would like to remind you that those very same people you belittle and treat condescendingly pay your salaries and keep your place of business/employment open.  be thankful for every customer irrespective of their attitudes.  in my shop the customer is always right.  that policy has paid of in spades even when on occasion I have lost in order to maintain goodwill.


I mean no disrespect, quite the opposite in fact.  But don't come into my store and insult my intelligence and call me names because YOU can't get your facts straight.  I will go well beyond the requirement to make a customer with a legitimate gripe happy if there's a problem.  But all too often, as you have pointed out Storch, personal responsibility is becoming less and less of a known commodity.  The customer is not always right, 99% of them are right, the other 1% could get me fired.
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2005, 11:06:30 AM »
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having dealt with the public since 1980 and the greatest portion of those years as an entrepenuer I would like to remind you that those very same people you belittle and treat condescendingly pay your salaries and keep your place of business/employment open.  be thankful for every customer irrespective of their attitudes.  in my shop the customer is always right.  that policy has paid of in spades even when on occasion I have lost in order to maintain goodwill.


And that's an example of a shop that is a living hell for it's employees.. catering to assinine customers that are encouraged to abuse and take advantage of sales staff creates more assinine customers. If you want their money enuff to let yer staff take that kinda 'customer is always right' crap, then yer just competing for abuse at the lowest possible price. It works.. makes money. Gobs of it. Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy. Also makes working retail oh, so satisfying... I betcha get lots of bright personable folks competing for top-paying jobs at your registers. ;)
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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2005, 11:58:04 AM »
I have a few.


I worked support at Umax when they were a big name in scanners.

Lady calls in.

Her: This ****ty scanner is not working.

Me: Please run this utility.

Her: Ok it says Card not detected.

Me: Did you install the SCSI card that came in the box with the scanner into your system?

Her: Yes, of course I did.

Me: Are you sure you got it seated all the way?

Her: Seated? What?

Me: Ok give me a step by step run down on how you installed it.

Her: Well, I took the screws out and removed the plastic cover.

(this was like 95? No PCs had plastic case covers then. )

Me: Your computer has a plaster case cover?

Her: My computer? What do you mean my computer, I am NOT taking my compter apart.

Me: Were did you install the SCSI card then?

Her: Well I took the cover off the scanner and put it inside.

Me: (after putting her on hold and laughing) Were inside the scanner did you put it?

Her: Well I didnt see a place to plug it in so I just laid it inside.


I am not joking, and that was like my 3rd week on the job.

At my current job I could tell you tons, but the recent stand out is the guy who makes us put notes in his case that if the product wont work after we help him he is going to kill himself.

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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2005, 01:20:50 PM »
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And that's an example of a shop that is a living hell for it's employees.. catering to assinine customers that are encouraged to abuse and take advantage of sales staff creates more assinine customers. If you want their money enuff to let yer staff take that kinda 'customer is always right' crap, then yer just competing for abuse at the lowest possible price. It works.. makes money. Gobs of it. Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy. Also makes working retail oh, so satisfying... I betcha get lots of bright personable folks competing for top-paying jobs at your registers. ;)

gee! I wonder why I have no (zero, goose eggs, zilch, nada) turnover?  I'm easily among the highest priced in our market.  low end fences start at about $14.00 per foot at other places mine start at $20.00 per foot.  installers earn $3.00 per foot in other places mine earn $5.00 per foot.  furthermore those customers that we treat properly refer, refer, refer and return credit card in hand.  hmmmm i think i'll continue with my practice and watch others follow yours with a cat who ate the canary smile.  I thank my dad and the previous owner of my shop for drumming that little itty bitty piece of marketing wisdom into my thick skull.  it's a bit of a quaint notion nowadays when people walk by looking straight ahead without a greeting or a smile but human nature never changes, everyone likes to be treated special and for me the most difficult customers have turned out to be our best friends.  many times people have strolled in and said "so n so was very happy with your services and she is nearly impossible to please, would you please quote on this project for us?"  happens a few times each month.

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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2005, 01:29:46 PM »
Well, good fer you!!

Glad yer crew's happy and your business is booming!! Obviously, you have a good thing going..

Carry on!
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2005, 01:34:53 PM »
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Well, good fer you!!

Glad yer crew's happy and your business is booming!! Obviously, you have a good thing going..

Carry on!


thank you,  try a little sugar with people you'll be glad you did, then take out your frustrations on this bbs.  :aok

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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2005, 02:03:17 PM »
Ah.. sorry. Perhaps I should explain a bit..

I too own a business. But, my business model is very different than yours.. I'm neither ambitious, nor burdened with staff.. I do the whole deal, from customer service/POS to production to shipping. My clients appreciate the quality of the product and generally don't give me any grief. If I get an idiot, I eat him for breakfast, give him a refund and send him packing. If he gripes; my other customers eat him for breakfast.

I charge a fair price for my product and couldn't care less what the other guy charges because there just isn't anything better than what I make for the job it's expected to do.

In your shoes, with staff and competition selling the exact same products I'd have to do it your way.. in my shoes, I don't.

Hasn't 'hurt' my business a bit.. and the reputation I've got for a very high quality product & good no BS customer service is outstanding. I'm also known for telling it like it is, and in my line; that's a VERY good thing.

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« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2005, 02:33:49 PM »
A late artist friend of mine had to deal with being negotiated on his artwork.  People would call and ask if the price included the frame, so on and so forth.  He told them the price was the same whether the work was framed or not, if they didn't lke the frame it was in they could reframe it themselves at their expense.  Sometimes the sale didn't go through.  Those probably weren't legitimate inquires anyway, but as my friend said, he wasn't in the frame business    Life of an artist.

Remember one day several years ago I received a call from a Dallas, TX interior decorator's office asking about my etchings.  I was drunk when I answered the phone and was on the defensive, not believing them (business had been so poor.)  Dismissed them as a cruel joke and may have hung up.  Turns out they were real, and my work hangs in the board room of the main downtown bank, and the Bienville Club atop the building.

Did pretty well too for those days, usually artists get half retail unless selling to an agent, where they get 25 percent and the artist gets the same, agents selling to the retailers after buying from the artist.

 But they (decorators) bought the etchings from me, so I got the full 50 percent retail.  Everything in an art gallery, unless it's on commission, is twice what the artist wants for it, however, ethically speaking the artist must not sell below gallery prices to anyone not in wjolesale.  It can make for a stomach ache business at times, because retail sales are  more common for an artist than wholesale.  In wholesale trade the artist normally receives 25 percent of the retail price, such as what a gallery price is.  When a buyer buys an entire edition outright for example.


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« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2005, 02:58:20 PM »
I say "YES" can do for any customer request... My competition says "NO" for every special customer requests.. Our sales are up %100 + this year...Our competition sales are flat..... The motto is if It plugs in or takes batteries and we have the answer help them or find someone who can help answer the question....  
  To each his own I guess..

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« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2005, 03:26:52 PM »
Storch, as a kid I thought just like you.  I even had a friend who ran his own businesses because he hated working for other people.  He had a lot of pride in customer service, until he started a generator store and repair shop in Hawaii.  The last straw was this incident, and I changed my mind about the customer always being right.

A guy brought in a generator that looked like hell.  Later my friend learned that it had sat underwater in a flooded basement for a few days.  The store charges $20 for repair estimates, so my friend took it despite it's appearance after warning the customer that it looked grim, and started work.

4 hours later, he got the rusted piece of crap apart and determined that it would cost more to fix than it was worth.  He called the customer, and explained this.

The customer said that he wanted his generator back, in the same condition it was in.  As the generator was rusted beyond easy repair, putting it back together would have been a monumental undertaking and would have resulted in having to replace multiple bolts that had broken off in the holes, etc.

When the customer stormed into the store, my friend calmly offered him the parts back in a box and because the customer was so irate, offered to waive the diagnostic fee.  The customer said that if my friend didn't rebuild it on the spot, he'd kick his butt and burn down his store.  My friend turned to call the cops and the guy charged him.

Fortunately, my friend's co-owner was a 7 ft 300 lb samoan who heard the commotion, and he was able to intervene before my friend got stomped, because my friend was a smallish 50 yr old ex-hippie who couldn't fight his way out of a wet sack.

So...  Yea, the customer is always right...  Unless you're in a business where every customer you see is already pissed off even before he gets to the store, because he has to get his piece of crap generator fixed.  Then the customer is a potential threat, and while good service will bring back repeat satisfied customers, there will be a measurable percentage of customers who simply need to be physically tossed out before they hurt someone.

FWIW, My friend sold his interest in the generator repair store after he realized that his first-time customers were NEVER smiling when they came through his door for the first time, and opened a used CD store on the theory that it's pretty tough to get upset over buying and selling used CDs.  He later ruined his marriage by getting back into drugs, and checked into rehab after a short jail term and a divorce that pretty much crushed his wife who he'd made totally dependent on him before he became worthless.

But that's another story and another rant :)
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« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2005, 03:33:03 PM »
The flip side is..... pulling up to a DQ and ordering a banana  split only to find that there is not one person in the highly trained and efficient staff who has a clue to what a banana split is.  
  The flip side is........Going into an authorized Harley dealer to the parts section , handing genius #1 a broken hymes joint for a forward control and seeing him turn it over and over in his hand with a puzzled look on his face, then proceeding to consult genius #2, who consults Head Genius #3, who gets an enlighted look on his face, heads into the back and returns with an ear to ear grin on his face and handes you a banjo fitting for fatbob gas tanks.
  The flip side is....... Walking into a shiny new parts store and asking where they keep the chrome liscense plate covers, then having the manager tell you that they only stock ONE of these at a time. This in in the state of Texas where both front and rear liscense plates are required by law. :)
  Returning to above parts store a week or so later to get an inline filter for a carb and being told that they had one in stock that morning, but they sold it an hour earlier.
   I could go on an on...............
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« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2005, 03:46:39 PM »
We sell cast-stone address blocks.  Often, the homebuilder will send the owner in to purchase the address plate, and the ladies are always irate that we do not have their particular address number in stock.  I always tell them they can take that one (Pointing to the sample), if they want one today, but if they would prefer one with their own address number they will have to wait.

The customers that really chap my ass, and I have expereinced them in every job I was in, are the ones who ask for your advice, then want to argue with you about how to do it, since they read a magazine article about it.  I just shutup, smile, and ask them what I can sell them.