Hate for everything Russian

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

First off, I don't hate Russian people. I consider the average Russian citizen to be just as much a victim of the USSR/CCCP or Stalin, or Lenin, or Kruschev or the rest of the Kremlin/KGB cohorts as any of the rest of their victims, like the Poles, the East Germans, the Cheks, or any number of others.

However, I have to wonder how you can ask the vast majority of the free world "what did Russia or the Communists ever do to you" with a straight freakin face.

Really.

For starters, if Dad were alive, you could ask him how he felt about Stalin backing China and North Korea, so he could spend a wonderful time in South Korea in the early fifties being shot at by those wonderful marvels of Soviet technology like the Mig 15, and any number of other pieces of Soviet military hardware. Not to mention the Russian military personnel operating some of that equipment and directing the operation of the rest of it.

I've got a few dozen friends you could ask how much they enjoyed their time in South East Asia, under pretty much the same conditions.

Hell, you could ask the general population of the South Eastern US how much they enjoyed the Cuban Missle Crisis, you know, that wonderful little episode where RUSSIA sent Castro all sorts of neat little toys to point at the region, and all sorts of help to operate it.

Shoot, you could ask the families of the pilots who died flying cargo planes into Berlin when RUSSIA decided to blockade the city and starve it into submission.

Are you so ignorant and uneducated that I need to continue this laundry list of what RUSSIA did that affected average US citizens?
Or are you going to deny that any of this happened? Or better yet, deny that RUSSIA was involved? Hell, go us all one bettter and blame the US for all of the above.


Naw, RUSSIA never did a damned thing to the US or its citizens. Nothing REALLY happened between 1946 and 1989. It was all a dream. Thousands of Americans didn't die opposing Soviet backed communist aggression. Never happened. No reason at all for any lingering bitterness or animosity.

[moot]

Nevermind that the premise of communism is complete ****in garbage.

[Vad]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Ok, so what's with the indignant wailing?

Just as a FYI.. my generation fought communisim.. hot wars. Not just cold. With better than 104,000 american servicemen dead between Korea and Vietnam, the riots and civil unrest here in this country during vietnam directed, funded and led by the american communist party....

I just want to remind you that we have nothing with your war in Vietnam. It is your own war, we just gave some advices.

And about Vietnam and Korea.. hey, it wasn't Pearl Harbor or Europe, you fought for american intersets not for surviving of american nation. You have to pay for what you want to get. Somewhere you have got a lot ( Iraq, the second world resources of oil), somewhere you got nothing. Actually, I have no idea what you were going to find in Vietnam, you could find nothing there but "freight 200".

But in what connection communism there?

 Vad, I have been spit upon right here in my own country by home grown commies, shot at by the export models and attended the funerals of friends killed by the russain speaking kind.

Me too. By english speaking ones.
It was in 1984. Alexander Madora, KIA. He was 18, complete newbe, and in any case couldn't be threat for US trained professionals in Afgan.
And what does it mean? I have to take revenge now?

Read 'Black Book of Communisim'. 60 million dead worldwide, thanks to the 'benign' totalitarian system of government you seek to whitewash.

60 million dead americans? You are kidding. Oh, they were not americans, they were others. But why do YOU hate us?

Don't pretend that Americans have no reason to hate communists or communisim... not Here. not Now. not Ever.

Exactly what I wanted to say - you will hate communism just because you have to do that. Without reasonable explanation.
I want to know just one simple thing - why "not now"? why "not ever"? Only that, nothing more.

[Vad]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts

For starters, if Dad were alive, you could ask him how he felt about Stalin backing China and North Korea, so he could spend a wonderful time in South Korea in the early fifties being shot at by those wonderful marvels of Soviet technology like the Mig 15, and any number of other pieces of Soviet military hardware. Not to mention the Russian military personnel operating some of that equipment and directing the operation of the rest of it.

What did your father do in South Korea? Vacation? All inclusive hotels, girls in bikini, martini and... what a f..ck, Russian Mig-15!!!
Who is idiot - you or me?

I've got a few dozen friends you could ask how much they enjoyed their time in South East Asia, under pretty much the same conditions.

What did your friends do in South East Asia? Vacation? All inclusive hotels, girls in bikini, martini and... what a f..ck, Russian Mig-21!!!
Who is idiot - you or me?
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Ok, later. I have to take some rest, tomorrow is a busy day.

[moot]

When you work, you are sovereign of what you reap.
When someone takes that from you without your consent, that's stealing.
Usurp all you want from people who don't know better, but don't be surprised in the lack of interest from those who do know better.

[Wotan]

Originally posted by Vad
You can't distinguish between two posts from two different authors. And you want that I discuss with you quality of American education system? Gimme break!

I quoted both you and genozaur. If you can't figue out who typed what then now you know how the rest of us see it. Different names, same ignorant shyte.

Your arse, your face what's the difference...? If you can't figure it out don't blame me.

[Staga]

Originally posted by Vad
But why do YOU hate us?

 

Answer was spelled for you already many posts back but if you refuse to acknowledge and understand it then there's not much to do but wish you a nice day and say tadaa

btw I'm leaving to Russia in couple days and going to spend a nice two weeks in there with my Russian friends.
Thank God they're intelligent people unlike some other Russians who's post I've had a displeasure to read.

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by Vad
I just want to remind you that we have nothing with your war in Vietnam. It is your own war, we just gave some advices.]

Horsepucky. Out right lie. Ask Boroda what his uncle did in the War.

And about Vietnam and Korea.. hey, it wasn't Pearl Harbor or Europe, you fought for american intersets not for surviving of american nation. You have to pay for what you want to get. Somewhere you have got a lot ( Iraq, the second world resources of oil), somewhere you got nothing. Actually, I have no idea what you were going to find in Vietnam, you could find nothing there but "freight 200".

Apologist drivel. We were soldiers. We served. 5 million of us in Vietnam alone. Another 16 MILLION American Cold warriors served, standing guard, serving their nation, many of them did not come home.

But those of us that did.. we remember why we served. What we guarded against. We talked, watched the news, raised our kids.  The word tends to get around about who yer enemies are out there in the big bad world..

60 million dead americans? You are kidding. Oh, they were not americans, they were others. But why do YOU hate us?

You just don't get it, do yah? Who do you think lives here? Americans? you betcha. From Ukraine, latvia, estonia. Czech's, slavs, Swede's, Finn's, poles... the list is very long... and quite a few of them just happen to be here because they escaped or left living in communist paradises... and came to America. And talked. and watched the news, raised kids... many, many, MANY millions of 'em.

Exactly what I wanted to say - you will hate communism just because you have to do that. Without reasonable explanation.

Oh, read the book. Please do. 'Black Book of Communisim'. Would you like a link?

I want to know just one simple thing - why "not now"? why "not ever"? Only that, nothing more.

There were surviors. They talked. For the Familys of those that didn't. So my kid's won't have to send their sons and daughters to fight communist tyranny and oppression.

[Skuzzy]

Take the bigotry somewhere else folks, it is not welcome here.