Author Topic: Bought some CH Pro Pedals USB (Read 520 times)

RedTop · « **on:** June 09, 2005, 09:02:13 PM »

Any tips?

DrDea · « **Reply #1 on:** June 09, 2005, 10:31:47 PM »

Dont drool on em to much.Give it 2 months and you wont think about em a bit.

eilif · « **Reply #2 on:** June 09, 2005, 11:10:19 PM »

trade em in for the thrustmaster rcs!

DrDea · « **Reply #3 on:** June 09, 2005, 11:16:34 PM »

While TM is tops with customer service,with CH you never NEED it.Go CH.Go Smart.Go S MART.

Brooke · « **Reply #4 on:** June 09, 2005, 11:27:40 PM »

Yep, got CH USB pedals here, too. They are excellent. And not once have I had to say, "Ma'am. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to leave the store."

The only weirdness I did have is that I happened to plug my pedals in first, then my joystick. Windows put the pedals in as user-interface device 1 and the joystick as device 2. Once it does it once, there is no undoing it. Then, when you go into Aces High to set it up, the default is that it is using your pedals for things like pitch and roll and your joystick for yaw. It's not too much work to reassign things to be correct, but I wish I would have plugged in the joystick first. (By the way, this isn't resolved by uninstalling the joystick and pedals drivers then reinstalling either -- it is an evil Windows infinite-memory thing.)

If anyone has this trouble and needs to figure out how to set everything up in Aces High, here is a guide for you:

http://www.electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/aces_high/startGuide/startGuide.html#_Toc91409090

DrDea · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2005, 12:27:58 AM »

CH still has the control panel right?Ive never run into that.Musta hooked em up right out of blind luck I suppose.

Brooke · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2005, 02:50:15 AM »

No, CH has no control panel that I know of, it was setting it up in Aces High (the Aces High settings), the Aces High joystick settings area, that I was talking about.

My above discussion of which is device 1 and which is device 2 is not a problem of CH, by the way, it's the way Windows does it when you plug things in. It would happen to any other joysticks, too -- it just depends on which order you first plug them in.

The lesson: the very first time you are going to plug anything in, make sure you plug in the joystick first, and the pedals (or whatever) second. After you do it that first time, it's set, and you can plug them in and out later in any order you want.

Mayhem · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2005, 06:24:35 AM »

heres My take, If you want Ch pro pedals go CH all the way. throttle stick and pedals.

1) It alows you to use the CH programing software and utilaties
2) It alows you to use all your gear (stick pedals and throt) as a single controller.
3) Toe brakes.
4) you can add more controllers such as yoke and quadrant throt to the mix.

JB73 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2005, 09:44:19 AM »

if you are using jyst the CH pedals and no other CH produst, you don't need the control manager.

as far as tips??

you will die

ALOT

before you get used to them. probably a little over a month at least, possibly longer if you were using a twist stick for years.

i went from x45 to pedals, so the "seperation" of stick and rudder was already there, i had to transfer it to feet. i left the ro9cker on the x45 blank not mapped to anything, but kept doing the motions with my hand. i had to think, "im pushing right rudder with my hand.... right foot move"

the toe brakes are too cool for words, i don't knwo how people land without them

grmrpr · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2005, 10:47:41 AM »

I have a set of CH pro USB pedals and they are ok. I liked my TM RCS better but they do not have toe brakes and the pot is old and spiking.

As for the ch pro they are a pain in the arse to work on. I had to open up a friends and fix his toe brakes and clean the pot. The internal wiring sucks and will always eventually get caught in the path of the rollers and get cut. The wires are way too small of a guage to withstand even the smallest of pinches.

Use em till you break em. After you do break them- when you open them up replace all the wires with better quality ones and also drill small holes in the sliders to tie wrap the wires into a position where they are less likely to get pinched again...

I also have a spare set of CH pedels cuz I know that eventually the stock setup is going to fail and require about 4 hours of rewiring to fix...

When I have to crack open my current set I intend on taking pics and making a repair howto for it. I will also prob replace the stock rudder pot with a hall sensor. Since I do not play driving games I will probably just continously clean the pots in the brakes with contact cleaner instead of putting hal effect sensors in them...

GrmRpr

DipStick · « **Reply #10 on:** June 10, 2005, 10:52:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Brooke
No, CH has no control panel that I know of, it was setting it up in Aces High (the Aces High settings), the Aces High joystick settings area, that I was talking about.

My above discussion of which is device 1 and which is device 2 is not a problem of CH, by the way, it's the way Windows does it when you plug things in. It would happen to any other joysticks, too -- it just depends on which order you first plug them in.

The lesson: the very first time you are going to plug anything in, make sure you plug in the joystick first, and the pedals (or whatever) second. After you do it that first time, it's set, and you can plug them in and out later in any order you want.

Sure there is... Control Manager Ver 3.6

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2005, 12:36:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Brooke

The only weirdness I did have is that I happened to plug my pedals in first, then my joystick. Windows put the pedals in as user-interface device 1 and the joystick as device 2. Once it does it once, there is no undoing it. Then, when you go into Aces High to set it up, the default is that it is using your pedals for things like pitch and roll and your joystick for yaw. It's not too much work to reassign things to be correct, but I wish I would have plugged in the joystick first. (By the way, this isn't resolved by uninstalling the joystick and pedals drivers then reinstalling either -- it is an evil Windows infinite-memory thing.)

Brooke, you can easily fix that. After you unplug them (and uninstall any software or drivers you installed), do a registry clean and remove all references to the CH hardware. Its just a registry setting. Or if you feel really froggy, do a search through the registry for any entries relating to the pro pedals and change the settings for the pedals and joystick. Easier just to clean them out and reinstall though.

DamnedRen · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2005, 02:37:58 PM »

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Originally posted by grmrpr
I have a set of CH pro USB pedals and they are ok. I liked my TM RCS better but they do not have toe brakes and the pot is old and spiking.

***I have 9 pots sitting in my parts drawer. They are a tad long in the shaft but brand new and work perfectly. Need one?***

Brooke · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2005, 11:56:58 PM »

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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Brooke, you can easily fix that. After you unplug them (and uninstall any software or drivers you installed), do a registry clean and remove all references to the CH hardware. Its just a registry setting. Or if you feel really froggy, do a search through the registry for any entries relating to the pro pedals and change the settings for the pedals and joystick. Easier just to clean them out and reinstall though.

Hmm. Good point. I thought I tried that, but didn't succeed for some reason (perhaps didn't get all the CH settings or was afraid to delete some of them, not knowing for sure they were CH settings).

I will probably try it again, though, as some crappier games (like Battlefield 1942) can't hack seem to hack it if you have your joystick as device #2.

Brooke · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2005, 11:59:01 PM »

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Originally posted by DipStick
Sure there is... Control Manager Ver 3.6

I stand corrected.

Just to be clear for others, though, the CH stuff is all able to be hooked up without any special software -- just plugging them in and letting Windows XP do its thing will work.