Author Topic: Change in 30mm damage? (Read 1423 times)

wrag · « **Reply #15 on:** June 19, 2005, 09:42:28 AM »

I've noticed within the last 48hrs or so that hits don't seem to be happening for me or when I hit anything little to no damage seems to occur.

I've noticed cycles of this from time to time.

It SEEMS like I can dive in on em open fire and as little as 30 rounds x 3 20mm will down a bomber. Later it seems like I gotta use at the minimum 120 rounds x 3. I'm using gonds in a 109g10 or 109f4. For me the 109 is a better buff killer then a 190 with 4 20mm or 2 20mm and the 2 30mm.

I pretty sure I'm aiming at the same locations. And using pretty much the same attack angle.

I admit It is probably me but all the same it SEEMS different sometimes. Like something is changed?

ghi · « **Reply #16 on:** June 19, 2005, 11:10:18 AM »

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Originally posted by wrag
[of this from time to time.
. I'm using gonds in a 109g10 or 109f4. For me the 109 is a better buff killer then a 190 with 4 20mm or 2 20mm and the 2 30mm.

I? [/B]

For me too, G10 killing buffs is best fun, i love the smell of rosted bombers
Fw190A8, has better firepower, with 2x30mm+2x20mm+mgs but is too slow, i can't make passes and climb again, If is B26s or KI67 forget them, can't catch them in A8

Schaden · « **Reply #17 on:** June 19, 2005, 12:48:39 PM »

Did the G10 - K4 ever come with 30mm wing pods as in IL2 FB? If it did, can we have them?

Overlag · « **Reply #18 on:** June 19, 2005, 05:44:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Schaden
Did the G10 - K4 ever come with 30mm wing pods as in IL2 FB? If it did, can we have them?

it did, but it was a mess to fly......

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #19 on:** June 19, 2005, 07:17:50 PM »

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Originally posted by BTW
I doubt that, but I aint gonna argue. I just ignore bombers until they decide to fix them.

ghi is right. Bombers aren't hard to take down at all anymore, not that they were ever difficult in the first place. .50 cals alone is enough to take down bombers, no need for cannons.

ack-ack

Sikboy · « **Reply #20 on:** June 19, 2005, 07:53:13 PM »

Does the NS-37 suffer from the same "engine hit" problem as the German 30mm?

I don't think I've ever seen a single engine plane survive a single NS-37 hit. I always have gondolas when I'm in a 109, so I have no idea what I'm hitting with.

-Sik

Tails · « **Reply #21 on:** June 19, 2005, 08:38:26 PM »

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Originally posted by LLv34 Jarsci
Damn I forgot to tape it. My friend was manning shore battery and watching my attacks. He and I can confirm that I hit most of my shots, convergence is 250. Lots of pings and booms in the tank, but only 2 smoking tanks after ½ hour work. lots of assists tho.

M8 needed 2 grenades.

Convergance is too far. Set them to 150, aim for the rear or upper-rear deck, and dont shoot till you can count rivets. I tend to get lots of kills, or atleast damage+ditch that way.

BTW · « **Reply #22 on:** June 19, 2005, 10:49:22 PM »

>>ghi is right. Bombers aren't hard to take down at all anymore, not that they were ever difficult in the first place. .50 cals alone is enough to take down bombers, no need for cannons.
<<

Well b17's break up pretty well, but Lancs or b24's, I just find them a waste of time if I'm in a spit - there is a much greater chance I will die than them dieing. I just don't find it worth the alt time. I'f they're 5k, heck yea I'll take a shot.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #23 on:** June 19, 2005, 10:57:45 PM »

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Originally posted by BTW
>>ghi is right. Bombers aren't hard to take down at all anymore, not that they were ever difficult in the first place. .50 cals alone is enough to take down bombers, no need for cannons.
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Well b17's break up pretty well, but Lancs or b24's, I just find them a waste of time if I'm in a spit - there is a much greater chance I will die than them dieing. I just don't find it worth the alt time. I'f they're 5k, heck yea I'll take a shot.

Come from above and dive down. Aim the nose of your plane at the space between the top turret and cockpit. At this angle, it is difficult for the guns on the bombers to track you. You might get a stray ping or two but they won't hurt you. And when you fire, your shots will hit at the wing root area and you can easily remove the wing with a burst or two.

Since you're also in a plane with wing mounted guns make sure you're firing at your optimal convergence range to ensure full force impact from your guns.

ack-ack

BTW · « **Reply #24 on:** June 19, 2005, 11:24:09 PM »

Thank you, I'll give it a try. I've tried raking from the side and comming in from the bottom - the latter is absolute suicide since you flop like a fish when come up behind them. Oh and also HO wich is pretty safe but never nets more than a spark or two..

Ill try the top angle

Bodhi · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2005, 11:33:57 PM »

My bet is that a 30mm HE hit to an engine is more than likely gonna seperate the reduction box on the front on an inline in a heartbeat....

my .02

Morpheus · « **Reply #26 on:** June 20, 2005, 12:39:29 AM »

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Originally posted by ghi
i was trying to take off at A2, when you tested your 30mm on me , works fantastic , i blew up like watermelon on the runway,
now next step, go test it on flying planes

lol:lol

Filthy vulching scum!:mad:

ghi's 20mm's work well on my plane when its on the runway.

i wonder how his 30mm's would do.

Kweassa · « **Reply #27 on:** June 20, 2005, 12:47:11 AM »

40mms are fine Jarsci.

Just try to land both shots from both wings on one place.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #28 on:** June 20, 2005, 05:34:50 AM »

Didn't the Germans use a round that was both AP/HE?

ack-ack

Howitzer · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2005, 10:33:51 AM »

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Filthy vulching scum!

Yeah yeah... I think he got his wheels up on one of the passes, so actually the plane WAS in the air, and it wasn't technically a vulch.

You see this is all just a big misunderstanding..