Author Topic: All the hard work is complete (Read 542 times)

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2005, 10:15:31 AM »

Smells like political gamesmanship to me. Are 10+ Democrats going to defect in the Senate to pass this measure? I find that pretty unlikely. Possible but unlikely. Republicans can then use these votes against the amendment as proof that Democrats lack patriotism.

Such is politics.

-- Todd/Leviathn

AdmRose · « **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2005, 10:33:13 AM »

"I don't support burning of the flag but I'll fight like hell to defend your right to do it."

lazs2 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 23, 2005, 02:38:43 PM »

I don't support the burning of any flag nor the the flying of the confederate flag...

In both cases it is nobodies business but the burner/flyers.

I am just pointing out how the control freaks of either side can justify one and ban the other.

lazs

Karnak · « **Reply #18 on:** June 23, 2005, 02:52:39 PM »

It is a BS waste of time.

To lazs, I've never heard of an attempt to outlaw the flying of the Confederate flag, but if there is one I oppose it.

Removing it from state flags where it was coincidentially added during the Civil Rights struggles of the '50s and '60s is not the same thing however. It was added with the intention of making a clear statement of the position of those state governments. It should not be on those flags because of why and when it was added. If it had been added for memorial reasons in, say, the 1870s I'd have a different opinion.

That said, in no case should anybody be stopped from flying the Confederate flag as individuals or as private groups. No restricts as to where it can be flown should be allowed either. They should be allowed to march down main street with it if they like, so long as they obey traffic laws.

lazs2 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2005, 03:00:37 PM »

and it is who that discerns what is "intent"? And.... is not "intent" simply another way of saying..... free speech?

A confederate flag is historical... that can't be denied... for it to fly (under the US flag) in states and counties that were former confederate states is perfectly reasonable.

While I aplaud your liberal attitude toward allowing someone to fly it.... I am appaled at your thinking that you have the ability to tell what is "intent" or not and squash free speech based on that.

by your reconing then... would it be ok to fly it at state owned and maintained battlefield sites from the civil war? Or perhaps it would be better to burn any pictures in the lobby of said sites that showed confederate soldiers flying it?

It's all so confusing when you pick and choose what is free speech huh? A man would need god like powers to descern "intent" eh?

lazs

JB88 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 23, 2005, 05:53:17 PM »

btw.

curious...

have we had a recent outbreak of flag burnings that i am unaware of?