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Offline Heater

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« on: June 15, 2000, 04:54:00 AM »
This one came from a fabulous 70+ year old man who is a
  retired Air Force pilot and gave countless hours of service.
 
  SENIORS MUST LEARN TO SACRIFICE!
 
  All citizens of the USA should remember this!!!!!
  I was embarrassed to read that President Clinton and his
  advisors have said, "The older generation must learn to
  sacrifice as other generations have done"
  That's my generation. I knew that eventually someone would
  ferret out the dirty secret: we've lived the "lifestyle of
  the rich and famous" all our lives.
 
  Now, I know I must bare the truth about my generation
  and let the country condemn us for our selfishness. We
  certainly don't deserve any of that Social Security money
  that we've put away for 45 or 50 years! We sure don't need
  help with our medical bills...no, we've surely got Enough put
  away for a $250,000 open heart surgery bill. We've had so
  much fun in our lives, why just read the following:
  During the Depression we had a hilarious time dancing to the
  tune of "Brother Can You Spare A. Dime?" We could choose to
  dine at any of the country's fabulous soup kitchens, often
  joined by our parents and siblings...those were the heady
  days of carefree self-indulgence.
 
  Then, with World War II, the cup filled to overflowing. We
  had the chance to bask on the exotic beaches of Guadalcanal,
  Iwo Jima and Okinawa; to see the capitols of Europe and
  travel to such scenic spots as Bastogne, Malmedy and Monte
  Cassino. Of course, one of the most exhilarating adventures
  was the stroll from Bataan to the local Japanese hotels,
  laughingly known as death camps.
  But the good times really rolled for those lucky enough to be
  on the beaches of Normandy for the swimming and boating
  that pleasant June day in '44. Unforgettable.
 
  Even luckier were those that drew the prized holiday tickets
  for cruises on sleek, gray ships to fun filled spots like Midway,
  The Solomons and Murmansk. Instead of asking, "what can we do
  for our country," an indulgent government let us fritter away
  our youth wandering idly through the lush and lovely jungles of
  Burma and New Guinea.
 
  Yes, it's all true: we were pampered, we were spoiled rotten, we
  never did realize what sacrifice meant. We envy you, Mr. Clinton,
  the harsh lessons you learned in London, Moscow, Little Rock, and
  the secluded cubby's of the Oval office with a young intern.
 
  My generation is old, Mr. President...and guilty; but we are repentant.
  Punish us for our failings, sir, that we may learn the true meaning
  of Duty, Honor, and Country. Give that money that we've been putting
  in to Social Security and Medicare to those more deserving...like
  yourself?
 
  Robert J. Grady, Lt. Col., USAF (Ret), Colorado Springs
  IF YOU FEEL AS I DO, YOU WILL PASS THIS ON TO EVERY ONE ON YOUR
  LIST, REGARDLESS OF THEIR POLITICAL PREFERENCE. For all of us who
  still remember, let those who don't, understand!


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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2000, 08:23:00 AM »
I saw that and was going to post it, thanks for sharing that...really gets my juices flowing! Grrrrr!

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2000, 09:48:00 AM »
Rip, you got your priorities wrong.

These dudes have had *experiences*, not trouble.  

Seriously, I know what you're getting at and I agree
 
<The following is me playing the Devils Advocate on an issue I make very general. This little thingy here is just me showing off some sophistry, and should not be taken as my own personal view but rather as an example of how you can counter any argument, no matter how well based. If you're twisted enough.  >

Then again, every man and woman in a nation is bound to make sacrifices all through their lives. One cannot spare a specific group while the rest have to pay - suboptimation and resentment is the result.

This one came from a fabulous 70+ year old man who is a retired Air Force pilot and gave countless hours of service.


Aye, gave just as I give countless of hours to my employer. A career choice that is compensated for by economical means.

Young people face hardships. Young people that eventually become old people. The logical conclusion would be that older folks by default should not be required to dance to the economic whistle or what the people rule in a democracy.

About the war; a lot of American men fought in it. Some of them were in combat units who saw action. Very few American women did. Should older American women not be given same benefits as veterans? A return to Roman standards mayhap, where you're given land at the end of your service?

They've raped earth for the last 50 years, creating ecological damage on an unmatched scale. If they are to reap the rewards of their actions, surely the consequences would be part of the deal? The same goes for some of the social injustices we find today; they've had a lifetime to change it, but have stagnated and fallen back on backbone knowledge and acceptance.

A classic case of melancholy; good deeds multiplied by ten, and mischief forgotten or supressed.

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This is what I have to endure whenever I drink beer with some of my friends who are majoring in philosophy. I've had a very similar argument less that two weeks ago and it became very heated to say the least  

I say use the Roman system to some degree; award productivity and sacrifice. One of the major problems today IMHO is that the PC people want us to believe that we're all equal - now based on an abstract question about the inherent value of human life, sure, but based on a skill based pragmatic level, it is so far from the truth as to rival the OJ trial  .

Sorry for this post. Just had some time to kill, along with some leftover frustrations from that discussion. It's not meant as a standing ground for any further debate and I will refrain from entering one. Just posted it to illustrate what a greyish mishmash any point can become when there are two competing parts. I mean, this is logic for children! They do something for you, you do something for them, not much more to it than that.

Feel sorry for me, because I got dweeb sophist friends I really care about  .

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2000, 11:37:00 AM »
Whine, whine, whine! Enough of this, I say we strap their wrinkled tulips to the working end of a supermarket conveyor belt where they belong!

Can you say: "Paper or Plastic?"

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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2000, 12:32:00 AM »
Clinton,s an amazinhunk? Now theres a big suprise.

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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2000, 01:33:00 AM »
blur got it nailed down.

Hey man, they've lived a life already. Us young people haven't. They should be glad we don't make slaves outta 'um.


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