Author Topic: Scary thought.... (Read 908 times)

Toad · « **Reply #15 on:** July 01, 2005, 11:28:39 PM »

I think to get to the red state voters you first have to win the nomination. To do that, I think you have to have the support of the guys in the smokey back room. That's where the pipeline of money to run resides.

Maybe that's me being too cynical but there it is.

Nash · « **Reply #16 on:** July 01, 2005, 11:31:03 PM »

Those smokey back room guys are accountable to (or speak for) the voters.

Toad · « **Reply #17 on:** July 01, 2005, 11:33:01 PM »

Are they really? Does anyone really know how the big money gets earmarked for a certain guy? How the decision is made on who gets the lion's share?

Nash · « **Reply #18 on:** July 01, 2005, 11:45:29 PM »

Winnibility divided by agenda.

Can this guy win? If so, does he speak to our agenda. Does he speak to our agenda? If so, can he win?

That's the equation. Anything else is just throwing money down the drain.

As far as the "smokey back room" types are concerned, their guy has to be able to win. First and foremost. And the only way he can do that (talking about Republicans here now) is by relying on a voting block that can get that done. So the only way to do it is by having a guy who appeases that block.

..... essentially making him unelectable by the rest of the country.

The more that block turns up the heat (such as Schiavo, choice, school prayer, SC nominations) the tougher it becomes for the Republicans who got elected by them. The tougher it will be for another Republican to get elected on the next go around.

Like I said - they signed a deal with the devil.

Toad · « **Reply #19 on:** July 01, 2005, 11:56:31 PM »

It's been pretty close two times in a row now. I'm still thinking "Republican fatigue" makes it the Dems election to lose.

Nash · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2005, 11:57:31 PM »

There is that.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:01:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
When us malcontents elect a Libertarian as President, the D's and R's will change.

Don`t look now Ethel, but there has not been a D or an R for a long , long time.
It`s a banner that carries no merit , nor meaning and hasn`t for quite some time.

Toad · « **Reply #22 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:03:09 AM »

Well, Ethel says that's what they call themselves and what we call them to tell them apart.

Nash · « **Reply #23 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:06:11 AM »

Bah.

Just because Republicans lost the plot (remember smaller government? fiscal responsibility? accountability?) doesn't mean the Democrats have.

Don't shlep yer problems on the entire thing just 'cause yer stuff went awry.

Toad · « **Reply #24 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:07:29 AM »

Oh yeah.. the Dems haven't lost the plot. Heck no, they're right on course with Skipper Dean at the helm.

There's to lose and they're working at that.

Nash · « **Reply #25 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:08:26 AM »

Want me to comment on Dean or something?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:10:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Well, Ethel says that's what they call themselves and what we call them to tell them apart.

That`s my point. There is no telling them apart. No basic grounds anymore. No common beliefs or principals. For sale to the highest bidder comes to mind.

Nash · « **Reply #27 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:11:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
There is no telling them apart. No common beliefs or principals.

There's no telling them apart because they have nothing in common?

Toad · « **Reply #28 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:12:48 AM »

Exactly. Nobody goes there anymore because it's just too crowded.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 02, 2005, 12:32:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
There's no telling them apart because they have nothing in common?

I was speaking from a D or R respective as a party.